Sophia, am I screwed? {spoilers}

[Netsa]

Got to the end with high humanity and was blindsided by the decision to save Sophia since I didn't look it up beforehand. I chose to keep her alive (because it was on the left side*), I walk into the next room, and then Gemini informs that she died anyway.

I panic since I get a hunch something just happened and Google it, only to find out that apparently if I don't give Sophia peace, I'm immediately locked out the good ending. That is so much BS. Is it really just gone, or is there a way to revert my save or something?

*For context, every single lie/human decision in my game, including the riddles, was on the left side up to this point, so I thought there was a pattern.

[Wolfmaron]

lol

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

lol

This is a bad sign.

[Poyzo]

Yes, however there are three endings with three achievements. If you are looking to 100% the game, then this isn't as bad as it seems!

[Fengard]

It's gone but you still can get the good ending but not the best ending. Try going for it on NG+, I did the same on my 1st playthrough.

[MeltedLemonade]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Got to the end with high humanity and was blindsided by the decision to save Sophia since I didn't look it up beforehand. I chose to keep her alive (because it was on the left side*), I walk into the next room, and then Gemini informs that she died anyway.

I panic since I get a hunch something just happened and Google it, only to find out that apparently if I don't give Sophia peace, I'm immediately locked out the good ending. That is so much BS. Is it really just gone, or is there a way to revert my save or something?

*For context, every single lie/human decision in my game, including the riddles, was on the left side up to this point, so I thought there was a pattern.

I'm in the exact same predicament right now I'm trying to find a save editor because I AM NOT GOING TO LET IT SLIDE is there anyone that can tell me something useful

[MeltedLemonade]

I looked at a save editor online and theres about 500 dialogue options that state their choices but they aren't distinguished at all it just says ♥♥♥♥ like "dialogue option #"

[Netsa]

Originally posted by MeltedLemonade:

I looked at a save editor online and theres about 500 dialogue options that state their choices but they aren't distinguished at all it just says ♥♥♥♥ like "dialogue option #"

If you find something that works, let me know!
I basically just hung it up for the rest of today and focused on something else.

[gtamike_TSGK]

Kids... always backup your Game Saves multiple times.

[N33T_1337]

Can't you rollback your save through the cloud?

[SadPlatty©]

Since it seems like your only looking to play through once (based on looking the information up for your first run vs a blindfolded run) - maybe just get to the last boss and then just download a 99% save from Nexus.

Otherwise - you need to get all endings to 100% the game, which doesn't seem to be what your trying to do, so at least this will just unlock the achievos you would otherwise miss.

[MeltedLemonade]

Originally posted by N33T_1337:

Can't you rollback your save through the cloud?

Don't think this game has steam cloud saves

[Netsa]

I'm playing this on Microsoft Game Pass. Not sure if it does cloud saves or how they work.

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Since it seems like your only looking to play through once (based on looking the information up for your first run vs a blindfolded run) - maybe just get to the last boss and then just download a 99% save from Nexus.

Otherwise - you need to get all endings to 100% the game, which doesn't seem to be what your trying to do, so at least this will just unlock the achievos you would otherwise miss.

It was a mostly-blindfolded run. I was blind going in and didn't look up any information on treasures or spoilers, but as soon as I started seeing decisions that looked important, I looked them up, but only as I became aware of them (rather than looking ahead). That's why I knew about the humanity meter, but didn't know I had to kill Sophia. Her dialogue upon entering the area is basically "kill me, please" so I kinda thought P would just do it.

I only planned to mess around a little with Technique and fast weapons (since I'm currently Motivity and slow weapons) on NG+, so yeah, not 100%. NG+ probably goes faster than the first run, though, right? Maybe it would be worth it to just go all the way if I can't figure out anything with these saves.

[The Undead Watcher]

What was your reasoning behind keeping her alive? Must've been because saving Antonia worked out "well".
I chose to end her suffering because no living creature should suffer from pain, just to keep them "alive" if you can even call that living.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by The Undead Watcher:

What was your reasoning behind keeping her alive? Must've been because saving Antonia worked out "well".
I chose to end her suffering because no living creature should suffer from pain, just to keep them "alive" if you can even call that living.

It was on the left side. I mean, I can come up with a better reason, if you want:

- I'm not a proponent of euthanasia in real life, so I think the idea of forcing that decision with the pretext of punishing the player if they do otherwise is really messed up, and I don't like having that kind of worldview pushed on me.
- The level of pain she was in didn't seem apparent considering how she acted for the majority of the game.
- Saving Antonia did, in fact, work out well.
- Delaying the decision and making it later seems like a valid choice considering I hadn't explored any of the rest of the area, and killing someone later was something they let you do to Alidoro.
- The decision itself didn't seem important since either one is a "human" decision, neither one is a lie. She also dies immediately afterwards regardless.
- You were at the heart of the alchemists' base, you were close to killing their leader, and you control the gold coin tree. It's not completely out of the realm of possibility that a cure could come up.

Disclaimer:
None of these were actually the reason I chose not to kill her, though I think they sound pretty good.

[Link10103]

Gamepass uses cloud saves, I assume we're not able to mess with that with it already being irritating to do anything file wise normally. The closest you get is being able to choose from a local save and the cloud save if you were offline.

So yeah, just like I was, youre boned outside of downloading some completion save file from nexus or something.

Aside from save scumming with the local and cloud save, this game requires 3 playthroughs minimum for all achievements anyway. 2 runs if you do.

If multiple runs/100% isnt your goal, I'm not sure why you care which ending you get and just watch the others on youtube instead.