New game plus upgrade materials?

[Gaming Gamer]

Is the item drops at all different in NG+? You definitely DO NOT get enough upgrade materials at the end

[Dregora]

Not enough to do what? Max every weapon? If so then yes, you don't get enough.

[Sionnach]

That's my biggest gripe with the game, really. I wish you could just buy the upgrade materials prior to going into NG+, otherwise you're stuck with whatever weapon you were already playing with. I'd hoped to switch it up, but you don't get the option until NG++ which, by that point, you'll have all the best talismans and know the fights and it winds up being the easiest run.

No reason to artificially gate people out of weapons for NG+, or at the very least, make it to where the end materials drop early in NG+

[Gaming Gamer]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Not enough to do what? Max every weapon? If so then yes, you don't get enough.

Not every weapon but just weapons I'm interested in using. I just beat the game and only had enough for like 1 2/3 special weapons because I missed one. DS3 had like 15 titanite slabs at the end of the ring city

[Gaming Gamer]

Originally posted by Parade:

That's my biggest gripe with the game, really. I wish you could just buy the upgrade materials prior to going into NG+, otherwise you're stuck with whatever weapon you were already playing with. I'd hoped to switch it up, but you don't get the option until NG++ which, by that point, you'll have all the best talismans and know the fights and it winds up being the easiest run.

No reason to artificially gate people out of weapons for NG+, or at the very least, make it to where the end materials drop early in NG+

That really sucks

[Baron01]

Weapon upgrade materials and weapons in general are staying the same. This is one of weird design decision made by Neowiz because while we are getting improved amulets and defensive parts our weapons are staying the same. You might be able to compensate by further P-organ upgrades and consumable use (Ergo is not an issue in NG+) but eventually our damage starts to fall off. I do not understand why we are not getting new tiers of weapon upgrades in NG+ and beyond.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by God:

Originally posted by Dregora:

Not enough to do what? Max every weapon? If so then yes, you don't get enough.

Not every weapon but just weapons I'm interested in using. I just beat the game and only had enough for like 1 2/3 special weapons because I missed one. DS3 had like 15 titanite slabs at the end of the ring city

So... DLC...?


Do I really have to point out the obvious here

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Parade:

I wish you could just buy the upgrade materials prior to going into NG+

You can, though? At the very least, you can stock up on Hidden/Crescent/Half Moonstones. Pretty sure you don't lose them when entering NG+

[Gaming Gamer]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by God:

Not every weapon but just weapons I'm interested in using. I just beat the game and only had enough for like 1 2/3 special weapons because I missed one. DS3 had like 15 titanite slabs at the end of the ring city

So... DLC...?


Do I really have to point out the obvious here

Even with the base game you still get a lot of choices at the end lol

[Dregora]

Originally posted by God:

Originally posted by Dregora:

So... DLC...?


Do I really have to point out the obvious here

Even with the base game you still get a lot of choices at the end lol

I wouldn't call 8 a lot compared to how many weapons Dark souls 3 has. Not only that, aside from the special boss weapons, you can max a blade here, min max by putting another handle on it, etc.

You might not be able to max a lot of weapons but due to how the system works i'd say it's not as bad. But more items at the endgame or in NG+ wouldn't be bad.

[Pnume]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Weapon upgrade materials and weapons in general are staying the same. This is one of weird design decision made by Neowiz because while we are getting improved amulets and defensive parts our weapons are staying the same. You might be able to compensate by further P-organ upgrades and consumable use (Ergo is not an issue in NG+) but eventually our damage starts to fall off. I do not understand why we are not getting new tiers of weapon upgrades in NG+ and beyond.

Because the purpose of NG+n is to increase the difficulty. Not to ease it up or flatten it.
Even though from the end of NG+2, the bonus are pretty insane

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Pnume:

Because the purpose of NG+n is to increase the difficulty. Not to ease it up or flatten it.
Even though from the end of NG+2, the bonus are pretty insane

So, massive increases to HP of all enemies and also damage increase is not increasing difficulty?

Our defensive options are improving in NG+ and NG++ to keep up with the buffs but our damage does not. This will eventually make the game a slog fest because everything will take too long to kill. Killing trash in 3 hits of Motivity weapon does not feel right.

I'm currently in Act 7 on NG+ and so far the game is manageable but I more and more rely on consumable buffs to improve my damage. This is fine since Ergo is plentiful but I'm questioning what will I have to do to keep up with HP increases in NG++?

[Chacheya1G]

Originally posted by God:

Is the item drops at all different in NG+? You definitely DO NOT get enough upgrade materials at the end

you will be drowning in Full Moonstones by end of NG+, but Full Moonstones of the Covenant remain very, very scarce.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by Chacheya1G:

Originally posted by God:

Is the item drops at all different in NG+? You definitely DO NOT get enough upgrade materials at the end

you will be drowning in Full Moonstones by end of NG+, but Full Moonstones of the Covenant remain very, very scarce.

Indeed and this sucks. I am at NG+3 and I was only able to level 2 boss weapons to +5 in each playthrough.
Considering there is no point in using a non maxed weapon in NG+1 or higher, it would be nice if we were able to purchase more materials than it's currently possible at some point during NG+1, just for the fun of playing with more weapons.
It's not like having more boss weapons at +5 will make the character any stronger. It just gives more options to have fun.

[Pnume]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Originally posted by Pnume:

Because the purpose of NG+n is to increase the difficulty. Not to ease it up or flatten it.
Even though from the end of NG+2, the bonus are pretty insane

So, massive increases to HP of all enemies and also damage increase is not increasing difficulty?

Our defensive options are improving in NG+ and NG++ to keep up with the buffs but our damage does not. This will eventually make the game a slog fest because everything will take too long to kill. Killing trash in 3 hits of Motivity weapon does not feel right.

I'm currently in Act 7 on NG+ and so far the game is manageable but I more and more rely on consumable buffs to improve my damage. This is fine since Ergo is plentiful but I'm questioning what will I have to do to keep up with HP increases in NG++?

Where did I said it did not increase the difficulty?

The HP increase isn't ridiculous though.
I was killing bosses faster in NG+2 than NG+ mostly thanks to the weight bonus letting me abuse amulets.