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Simon Manus NG+
any tips? He seems to have gotten a huge buff compared to other bosses
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Fengard Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
buy lots of every throwable and nuke him at the start of the 2nd phase
MeltedLemonade Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Fengard:
buy lots of every throwable and nuke him at the start of the 2nd phase
Isn't the amount of throwables you get limited every playthrough
Anatolius Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by MeltedLemonade:
Originally posted by Fengard:
buy lots of every throwable and nuke him at the start of the 2nd phase
Isn't the amount of throwables you get limited every playthrough
No? You only have carry limit, which you can expand with organ upgrades.
MeltedLemonade Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:51pm 
Won't work. He flies around the arena like an wild Orangutan
Fengard Oct 19, 2023 @ 12:07am 
yeah it moves a lot around but throwables can easily nuke more than 50% of a boss health, specially if you upgrade the amount you can have in the p-organ. For throwables the node upgrade that let you equip more throwables is good but also quartz perks that increases the amount of throwables you can carry.
Poyzo Oct 19, 2023 @ 1:50am 
Don't use the Puppet Strings! Probably already know that, but I didn't realize until I got to NG+. lol
JP Oct 19, 2023 @ 5:42am 
Manus on NG+ was too much for me. I ended up using aegis and a spectre to get as far as I could in the fight then beat him normally.
Chacheya1G Oct 19, 2023 @ 9:00am 
How do people even have the slightest trouble with him post nerf is beyond me, especially in NG+ when you are swimming in so much ergo that you would be lvl 200 by the time you reach him with no trouble.
SadPlatty© Oct 19, 2023 @ 9:22am 
Went full aggro on him NG+ (around level 185).

Ouruboros' Ring maxed and 2x acid grindstones with the perk to last longer, Viktor's amulet plus one for damage boost per Fable Slot, and the best armor I could get by then for the most part - using Puppet String lvl3. Also had the perk to get fable on healing, and would assure I started the fight with max fable (5 bars).

Strat was - walk in, immediately use first grindstone, then dodge if needed or spin up the ring with it's second fable art; Puppet String link attack if he is too far, else I would just hit him between his combos and would dodge through the attacks to get almost behind him (but not all the way to try and eek out the 3 hit combos). Usually needed to use 2 heals as I do trade on some of the hits where I would get some extra value (like procing acid or about to stagger/phase change). Generally took between 2-4 minutes for this phase.

Phase 2 was more of the same, but I would lean a bit more on link attacks with puppet string when he used certain attacks. The leap into the air is protected once you get high enough, and so you can effectively vault over sweeps and sometimes the magic (not hand obviously). Use second grindstone near the middle of the fight and keep that blade spinning as much as you can as it does 3 hits per connection (stack that acid). Ended up taking around 8-10 minutes for this phase as I also back-peddle all the way whenever he uses that hand spell.

Then - if he was close to stagger phase 2 - toss the blade at him with the first fable art, then try link attacking and he would be close to staggering for some extra damage. Toss stuff as needed.

My P-Organ was tuned for anything doing more stagger damage/increase stagger window also, so that may be why I had somewhat of an easy time staggering with the Puppet String / spinning blade bit.
Last edited by SadPlatty©; Oct 19, 2023 @ 9:23am
Astori Heichalot Oct 20, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by MeltedLemonade:
any tips? He seems to have gotten a huge buff compared to other bosses
i would recommend you to memorize his attack pattern MINUS the overhead slam.
this dude can input overhead slam whenever he wants it...
I'd hit him once, if I see he put the mace back to his shoulder, i'd do a 2nd hit

i know doing 1-2 hit at a time will make the battle so much longer,
but that's how I did it, gotta keep them brain focused
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Date Posted: Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:06pm
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