What's the point of an "electric" heater or cooler when they still need a pal to run?

[Jim the Gardener]

The entire point of running off electricity is not needing the assistance of a pal I thought? I truly do not understand this feature. The big ass electric heater still also cant heat scorching eggs through the night if outside. The whole idea of these items are a huge ass mess.

[Red riding hood the third]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Yeah I think its best explained as some one else put it they didn't want end game you just needed electric pals and then a slew of anubis after you had your farmer and waters. You still need ice, and fire pals in the base even with electricity in it. Otherwise we might as well put in automatic sprinklers that run on power and I just need some electrics and what ever else I feel like

ice pals already need to be on the fridge and the kindling pals are smelting 24/7 or baking cakes in the endgame. all it does it taking up extra pal slots

[Lunacy]

What they should do is add an internal charge meter, like the electric generator, to coolers, heaters, and fridges. That way they don't have to dedicate 100% of their time to a single mostly-useless activity.

I never put a heater in my base anymore and just wear cold-resist armor, since it prevents fire pals from doing anything else.

[angelsenvy228]

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

agree that taking up another kindling/freezing pal for the cooler and heater is too much. in addition they should display a graph so its easy to tell how cold a region is, having to guess if the temperature is perfect for the egg is a horrible design

I'm guessing they didn't want to invalidate kindling/cooling pals in the late game, which makes sense. If you are farming and breeding level 4 kindling pals with traits why bother if you get an electric furnace, electric stove, electric heater/cooler and only need electric pals later. That would be weird too, although I agree the current solution also seems sub optimal.

[Pay Child Suport]

Originally posted by angelsenvy228:

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

agree that taking up another kindling/freezing pal for the cooler and heater is too much. in addition they should display a graph so its easy to tell how cold a region is, having to guess if the temperature is perfect for the egg is a horrible design

I'm guessing they didn't want to invalidate kindling/cooling pals in the late game, which makes sense. If you are farming and breeding level 4 kindling pals with traits why bother if you get an electric furnace, electric stove, electric heater/cooler and only need electric pals later. That would be weird too, although I agree the current solution also seems sub optimal.

which in turn invalidates electricity pals. only summon them when you need something to craft in the production line. which isn't much.

just leave the cold eggs out in the open and the warm eggs in a 3x3 setup where the campfire is in the center.

[Cybermaid]

Maybe they could have the structures build a heat buffer that slowly depletes overnight?
Not sure if that's great for others but for my troubles that solve a lot. not removing the need for those pal types either since you need to refuel the temperature buffer.

[0wnz0r]

imo electric heaters/coolers should get "filled up" by pals, then slowly lose charge, like that electric generator.

that would still make it better than a tier below, but u also still need pals for it.

[lon]

the cooler pals need to be able to cool the fridge and base at the same time in one structure

[GorishiDan]

It's why i don't use them. I hope someone makes a mod for that though bc i don't think the devs will change how that works.

[stretch]

System's pretty borked.
I gave up on my fridge. Stuff just ended up decaying anyway the instant it was unattended and I don't think they go there to feed so when it's in a feed bowl it rots. Pointless.
Let the electricity run the electrical devices please.

[MishaXG]

Definitely the bigger version should run on electricity and not with a pal.
Probably not a problem in solo as you can set 20 pals in each of your base, but in multiplayer it's only 15 Pals which isn't much at all.

Fridge is fine with a Cold Pal.

If i take my base as an example: 7 Ranch & more than 200 egg incubator so it's kind of impossible to use that tech with Pals (especially cause all incubators can stand at the same spot so it would need like 5 to 6 Pals at least for all of them (and that with a good setup where you can switch between ice / fire pals depending on the need)

[Hammer Of Evil]

hey man i just work here, i dont make the game lol.

[GorishiDan]

Originally posted by GorishiDan:

It's why i don't use them. I hope someone makes a mod for that though bc i don't think the devs will change how that works.

Well what do you know, they did made a mod for it:
https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/436

[Aquascape420]

where do you think electricity comes from? magic?

[BEEP!]

OK so the coolers & warmers are just broken on the gamepass version then because it doesn't matter how many of thoses you have it'll always be 50%

[Soren]

Originally posted by angelsenvy228:

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

agree that taking up another kindling/freezing pal for the cooler and heater is too much. in addition they should display a graph so its easy to tell how cold a region is, having to guess if the temperature is perfect for the egg is a horrible design

I'm guessing they didn't want to invalidate kindling/cooling pals in the late game, which makes sense. If you are farming and breeding level 4 kindling pals with traits why bother if you get an electric furnace, electric stove, electric heater/cooler and only need electric pals later. That would be weird too, although I agree the current solution also seems sub optimal.

Doesn't the decision kind of make level 4 kindling/ice perfectly bred pals largely useless anyway? As the higher efficiency of electric doesn't matter anymore since the electric powered devices are just asking for quantity of Pals over quality of Pals?