Hyper Sphere completely broken?

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Despite rank higher than Giga Sphere and cost way more resources to make but I can't use it 99% of the time????????

I've tried it on pretty much all Alpha Pals and despite varying levels and capture rate from 29% to 55%

ALL OF WHICH WHEN THROWN OR SHOOT FROM SPHERE LAUNCHER HYPER SPHERE JUST BOUNCE AWAY AND GAME SHOWS "USE A BETTER SPHERE HYPER SPHERE DOES NOT WORK ON THIS PAL AT ALL!"

Like Hyper Sphere is a joke or something? This is literally the best I can get atm and it doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work and perform worse (because at least Giga Sphere captures albeit have to waste more) than Giga.

For one Alpha I wasted 35 Giga because Hyper doesn't work (a good chunk of that from game breaking keep fail capture at post 75%)

Am I not using Hyper Sphere correctly or something? Is it only for x type pals? If its latter it doesn't say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the description.

[FallenAmberCloud]

Hyper Sphere is fine, it's better than mega / giga spheres by a mile. (for capture rate and using at higher pal levels)

What you have to consider is where and when you throw the spheres, stronger pals have certain hitbox where it's either harder than usual or impossible to get into the sphere. (like galewing flapping its wings will cause the sphere to get deflected when tossing a sphere during it's flapping animation or throwing a sphere in front of quivern face when it's uses dragonic breath caused the sphere to get deflected)

If you ever pay attention, their wings/tails/attack animations can deflect the spheres (there are other variables of how pals can deflect spheres too).
Using specific status aliment can help to get them into the sphere, but it won't help if you keep throwing spheres at certain hitboxes or during specific animation where they will always deflect it.

I'm pretty sure almost all palls have some form of action that can deflect spheres.

At least that's how it is in my hard difficulty (with no custom settings) playthrough, forced to learn how to be efficient with pretty much every resources I get my hands on.

[XILR8]

Upvote this, Hyper Spheres are broken, Giga/Mega will at least attempt to capture. Hyper Spheres just bounce off saying 0%

[Odd^Paradigm]

This is correct. I tested it many times, basically any sphere other than hyper will at least attempt to catch it regardless of catch rate. I'm talking stuff with 10-100hp left and hyper will bounce left and right but everything else works.

[Red riding hood the third]

they really have to rework the spheres, capture rate doesnt display correctly and sphere launcher is broken. imagine if they still dont fix this problem in the next patch

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

they really have to rework the spheres, capture rate doesnt display correctly and sphere launcher is broken. imagine if they still dont fix this problem in the next patch

I haven't had any real issues with them and there is other stuff that is more game breaking going on then you pissing off RNGesus sigh. I would rather see pathing and more bug fixing sigh...

[Lunacy]

Never had that problem, are they low enough hp first? Hyper spheres are for level 26-36 pals (depending on your effigy level) and won't be very effective on the higher level pals.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by FallenAmberCloud:

Hyper Sphere is fine, it's better than mega / giga spheres by a mile. (for capture rate and using at higher pal levels)

What you have to consider is where and when you throw the spheres, stronger pals have certain hitbox where it's either harder than usual or impossible to get into the sphere. (like galewing flapping its wings will cause the sphere to get deflected when tossing a sphere during it's flapping animation or throwing a sphere in front of quivern face when it's uses dragonic breath caused the sphere to get deflected)

If you ever pay attention, their wings/tails/attack animations can deflect the spheres (there are other variables of how pals can deflect spheres too).
Using specific status aliment can help to get them into the sphere, but it won't help if you keep throwing spheres at certain hitboxes or during specific animation where they will always deflect it.

I'm pretty sure almost all palls have some form of action that can deflect spheres.

At least that's how it is in my hard difficulty (with no custom settings) playthrough, forced to learn how to be efficient with pretty much every resources I get my hands on.

It's not fine in vanilla game. Like many other reported - it just straight off bounce off and doesn't work.

Today I tried on Alpha Bushi for instance - 20 hyper spheres all doesn't work just bounce straight off and ONE

ONE SINGLE GIGA SPHERE worked. And another attempt - 10 hypers then 3 mega I catch another Alpha Bushi - this ain't even high level boss - according to game equipment unlock progress - Hyper Sphere supposedly capture way easier not harder

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by Odd^Paradigm:

This is correct. I tested it many times, basically any sphere other than hyper will at least attempt to catch it regardless of catch rate. I'm talking stuff with 10-100hp left and hyper will bounce left and right but everything else works.

Yes, strictly speaking about capturing bosses, alphas, luckies

I can capture with no issue (other than capture rate and sometimes escape before 100%) with any other kinds of pal spheres but hyper sphere atm is 100% broken doesn't work and just bounce off - it almost feel like "Hyper Sphere" is a cheap arse version of pal sphere mistakenly placed at higher equipment unlock progress tree for no absolutely distraction purpose and wasting resources to craft to realize it is absolutely garbage.

[Kamenik]

All spheres broken now i lost 22 legendary and 10 ultra with capture power 10 on mob lvl 41 only 32% chance legendary ultra have 15% iam lvl 45 total unplayable now Huge ammount materials needs to craft this spheres and not work

[Chelios]

Originally posted by FallenAmberCloud:

Hyper Sphere is fine, it's better than mega / giga spheres by a mile. (for capture rate and using at higher pal levels)

What you have to consider is where and when you throw the spheres, stronger pals have certain hitbox where it's either harder than usual or impossible to get into the sphere. (like galewing flapping its wings will cause the sphere to get deflected when tossing a sphere during it's flapping animation or throwing a sphere in front of quivern face when it's uses dragonic breath caused the sphere to get deflected)

If you ever pay attention, their wings/tails/attack animations can deflect the spheres (there are other variables of how pals can deflect spheres too).
Using specific status aliment can help to get them into the sphere, but it won't help if you keep throwing spheres at certain hitboxes or during specific animation where they will always deflect it.

I'm pretty sure almost all palls have some form of action that can deflect spheres.

At least that's how it is in my hard difficulty (with no custom settings) playthrough, forced to learn how to be efficient with pretty much every resources I get my hands on.

Dude, what? I've thrown balls with zero to full velocity at every surface of their hitboxes for like 120+ hours. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken.

[Chopicus]

Capture Power is bugged right now. Just gotta wait for a hotfix.

[Marcusious |♣|]

I do not have this issue with Hyper Spheres, but the values seem off, I'm seeing incredibly small %s.

[Platapoop]

Yes I think it's bugged

[Elvick]

Is Hyper the red one? Because that's usually my go to. lol

[Trashitty]

Originally posted by FallenAmberCloud:

Hyper Sphere is fine, it's better than mega / giga spheres by a mile. (for capture rate and using at higher pal levels)

What you have to consider is where and when you throw the spheres, stronger pals have certain hitbox where it's either harder than usual or impossible to get into the sphere. (like galewing flapping its wings will cause the sphere to get deflected when tossing a sphere during it's flapping animation or throwing a sphere in front of quivern face when it's uses dragonic breath caused the sphere to get deflected)

If you ever pay attention, their wings/tails/attack animations can deflect the spheres (there are other variables of how pals can deflect spheres too).
Using specific status aliment can help to get them into the sphere, but it won't help if you keep throwing spheres at certain hitboxes or during specific animation where they will always deflect it.

I'm pretty sure almost all palls have some form of action that can deflect spheres.

At least that's how it is in my hard difficulty (with no custom settings) playthrough, forced to learn how to be efficient with pretty much every resources I get my hands on.

Please watch https://youtu.be/xt9-RyJbNaE?t=142 and tell me how the problem is due to me never paying attention...