Palworld / 幻獸帕魯

Palworld / 幻獸帕魯

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Dark 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 1:51
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Is Palworld shutting down?
I'm kinda nervous about what Nintendo will do about this game
最後修改者:Dark; 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 1:52
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The Unknown 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 3:55 
引用自 Doctor Zalgo
Yes it will get shut down at least temporary on the 27th of this month.

They have forgotten / did not notify Steam about the usage of ai, which has to be done in the submitting process. Steam can either remove the game forever, or make an exception.

Steam will review the usage of ai and if it turns out it is against the TOS everyone will lose access to the game. Which seems a 30-40% chance.

So no need to get extremely worried, but you shouldn't be without any worries either.

What use of AI?
There's 0 evidence, the dude was just making stuff up.
Wolfguarde 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 3:57 
引用自 Doctor Zalgo
Yes it will get shut down at least temporary on the 27th of this month.

They have forgotten / did not notify Steam about the usage of ai, which has to be done in the submitting process. Steam can either remove the game forever, or make an exception.

Steam will review the usage of ai and if it turns out it is against the TOS everyone will lose access to the game. Which seems a 30-40% chance.

So no need to get extremely worried, but you shouldn't be without any worries either.

What use of AI?

They basically think that Pocketpair is feeding pokemon creature designs into LLMs (large language models - tools like chatGPT that people are calling "AI" at the moment) to generate fakemons and bypass copyright. Given the game has been in development since 2021, and the slander originated from a poster also making baseless claims that Pocketpair are somehow involved in crypto/NFTs (which, from a cursory search engine prompt, has shown exactly zero relevant answers), I'm inclined to think that this is just a bunch of paid shills throwing any ♥♥♥♥ they can find at the wall and hoping something sticks.
Pontianak Tamer 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 3:58 
引用自 Wolfguarde
引用自 Doctor Zalgo

What use of AI?

They basically think that Pocketpair is feeding pokemon creature designs into LLMs (large language models - tools like chatGPT that people are calling "AI" at the moment) to generate fakemons and bypass copyright. Given the game has been in development since 2021, and the slander originated from a poster also making baseless claims that Pocketpair are somehow involved in crypto/NFTs (which, from a cursory search engine prompt, has shown exactly zero relevant answers), I'm inclined to think that this is just a bunch of paid shills throwing any ♥♥♥♥ they can find at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Shocking what furries can do when they put their minds to it
Wolfguarde 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 3:59 
引用自 Pontianak Tamer
引用自 Wolfguarde

They basically think that Pocketpair is feeding pokemon creature designs into LLMs (large language models - tools like chatGPT that people are calling "AI" at the moment) to generate fakemons and bypass copyright. Given the game has been in development since 2021, and the slander originated from a poster also making baseless claims that Pocketpair are somehow involved in crypto/NFTs (which, from a cursory search engine prompt, has shown exactly zero relevant answers), I'm inclined to think that this is just a bunch of paid shills throwing any ♥♥♥♥ they can find at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Shocking what furries can do when they put their minds to it

Lovander, curse beast of Palworld, would like to know your location.
Pontianak Tamer 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:12 
引用自 Wolfguarde
引用自 Pontianak Tamer

Shocking what furries can do when they put their minds to it

Lovander, curse beast of Palworld, would like to know your location.
Did you fall for the curse
BumSmackMountain 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:14 
引用自 NeoVICT

Oh yes, the good old "a friend told me" argument.


引用自 Lapom

Really? My uncle works at Steam and he told me there's nothing to worry about. :lunar2019deadpanpig: Are you 12 years old? :lunar2019laughingpig:

引用自 NeoVICT

Oh yes, the good old "a friend told me" argument.

Well, i'm not using it the way alot of other people do. This one actually knows alot of tihings, you can come back to this thread on the 27th if you'd like? You will see that i was right about it.

I'm also saying you shouldn't be extremely worried. but it will be shut down for at least a little while until Steam has reviewed it again, and then there is indeed a 30-45% chance it will stay gone.

And if you don't believe the part with the friend, then you still have the official guidelines and a developer which is actively avoiding every question about it.

Here's a tip... when you troll at least make it believable. If you think using AI is going to have a title removed, you need to look around m8. Everything is being created by AI, Videos/Pictures/Content/Games/Drugs AI will be used for everything. Shut down? you need ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shut down.
AdahnGorion 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:15 
引用自 Dustreaper
They are not going to do anything.
There are a lot of different takes on it all.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/does-palworld-break-pokemons-copyright-we-asked-a-lawyer
https://kotaku.com/palworld-pokemon-lawsuit-pocketpair-nintendo-pc-xbox-1851184907
https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-palworld-stolen-designs-lawsuit-nintendo-originality/

Personally I think, if Nintendo can find anything that just resembles a pokemon in one of the designs of the videos, then they will sue. The question is if they can or can´t find that evidence.

Personally I don´t care to much, this is just another Valheim, they popup now and then and they do give people that like to play MP survival sandbox games with friends some fun.
So that is great for those that want it and it does seem to deliver fun to people..
Wolfguarde 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:16 
引用自 Pontianak Tamer
引用自 Wolfguarde

Lovander, curse beast of Palworld, would like to know your location.
Did you fall for the curse

I'm not even in the game yet >.> Linux is running me in circles.
Doctor Zalgo 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:17 
引用自 The Unknown
There's literally 0 evidence that they used ai in this game...

https://twitter.com/imZaytri/status/1748425107310313828

On the other hand, there is literally 0 evidence that they didnt use ai.

The lead developer is known for being a huge ai fan, and they also used it in their previous game.

You don't need to prove that you didn't do something.
Doctor Zalgo 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:18 
引用自 AdahnGorion
引用自 Dustreaper
They are not going to do anything.
There are a lot of different takes on it all.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/does-palworld-break-pokemons-copyright-we-asked-a-lawyer
https://kotaku.com/palworld-pokemon-lawsuit-pocketpair-nintendo-pc-xbox-1851184907
https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-palworld-stolen-designs-lawsuit-nintendo-originality/

Personally I think, if Nintendo can find anything that just resembles a pokemon in one of the designs of the videos, then they will sue. The question is if they can or can´t find that evidence.

Personally I don´t care to much, this is just another Valheim, they popup now and then and they do give people that like to play MP survival sandbox games with friends some fun.
So that is great for those that want it and it does seem to deliver fun to people..

If they find one that resembles a pokemon, they won't sue. They'll send a politely worded threat and the devs will drop everything to retool that one instantly. The last thing the devs want is to get tangled up in a lawsuit while they're making hay.

There's no world where the magnitude of the breach is so significant that it requires the game to be taken down.
最後修改者:Doctor Zalgo; 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:20
Graydient05 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:18 
引用自 Shadow
I'm kinda nervous about what Nintendo will do about this game
if nintendo can take down this game just because there are cartoon animals that can get caught and some of them vaguely resemble or are inspired by pokemon, then the copyright system and legal system are both a complete failure. this is not attempting to be pokemon, it is not the same genre of game as pokemon, there are similarities between some of the fictional animals, but if having similar characters was enough to sue over, every comic book in existence would be in all out copyright war.
Doctor Zalgo 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 The Unknown
引用自 Doctor Zalgo

What use of AI?
There's 0 evidence, the dude was just making stuff up.

Yeah, I should have read further down the thread to read about his 'friend at valve'.
Pontianak Tamer 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:22 
引用自 Wolfguarde
引用自 Pontianak Tamer
Did you fall for the curse

I'm not even in the game yet >.> Linux is running me in circles.
It's concerning you researched about palworld waifus even before playing
I'm playing and didn't know about lovander til you mentioned it
monsterfurby 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:23 
引用自 AdahnGorion
引用自 Dustreaper
They are not going to do anything.
There are a lot of different takes on it all.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/does-palworld-break-pokemons-copyright-we-asked-a-lawyer
https://kotaku.com/palworld-pokemon-lawsuit-pocketpair-nintendo-pc-xbox-1851184907
https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-palworld-stolen-designs-lawsuit-nintendo-originality/

Personally I think, if Nintendo can find anything that just resembles a pokemon in one of the designs of the videos, then they will sue. The question is if they can or can´t find that evidence.

Personally I don´t care to much, this is just another Valheim, they popup now and then and they do give people that like to play MP survival sandbox games with friends some fun.
So that is great for those that want it and it does seem to deliver fun to people..

Nintendo's Tokyo offices are literally 15 minutes away from the Palworld devs'. Anyone trying to look at this with assumptions based on the very litigious US legal system is completely missing the fact that the clocks of the legal system tick differently in Japan. Formally, yeah, fair enough, this is addressed in the RPS article, but we're not in the realm of likely infringement here. Imitation isn't illegal in the US nor in Japan.

They *did* admittedly move pretty hard and fast against an attempt to make a mod with actual Pokemon. Which is also just one more hint at the fact that Nintendo is aware, but as long as no copyrighted Pokemon characters or Pokemon trademarks are used, all is fine.
最後修改者:monsterfurby; 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:27
Wolfguarde 2024 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:24 
引用自 Pontianak Tamer
引用自 Wolfguarde

I'm not even in the game yet >.> Linux is running me in circles.
It's concerning you researched about palworld waifus even before playing
I'm playing and didn't know about lovander til you mentioned it

It is, I've been waiting for this game for three years >.>

...and something like this game for about twenty. Not sorry.
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