Palworld

Palworld

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The Rogue Gamer Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:41pm
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Potential Copyright issue
Guys... Guys...

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1623730/extras/gif09_poaching.gif?t=1705583226

You cannot seriously tell me that doing this was a good idea. This looks and operates the exact same as a pokeball.

Nintendo is going to absolutely come down from the heavens with vengeful wrath if you guys don't either get permission to use this or change it completely.

It's a very weak argument that they open up before capturing the creature. This game looks interesting and cool but man, Nintendo don't play at all. They have zero chill with this stuff.

They own the copyrights for the ball, any versions that replicate it and the capture mechanics.
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Kashra Fall Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:43pm 
Lol, that's not how copyrights work. Copyright is copying something to the "T" the pokeballs in this game are opening top and bottom, not one capsule flipping back open. Mojang could have sued COUNTLESS copies of minecraft clones, if and only if the copies didn't have small differences.
Jazneo Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:46pm 
issue might have some models look like splice pokemon 3d models

https://twitter.com/Barbie_E4/status/1747945428958543909
Last edited by Jazneo; Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:46pm
Johnny Macabre Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:47pm 
It's parody. As long as they don't use any REAL pokemon names or designs, they are safe. TONS of games have monster catching mechanics.
Jazneo Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by Johnny Macabre:
It's parody. As long as they don't use any REAL pokemon names or designs, they are safe. TONS of games have monster catching mechanics.

but issue look like was not made scratch made but actually cut apart and use some texture
Xaelon Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:50pm 
This again? Yeah no. You can't sue someone for using a similar art style. Palworld and Pokemon have almost nothing in common gameplay wise.

Gamefreak didn't go after Coromon and Cassette beasts which are way closer to Pokemon's gameplay so why would they ignore those games but go after this one?
The Rogue Gamer Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by Johnny Macabre:
It's parody. As long as they don't use any REAL pokemon names or designs, they are safe. TONS of games have monster catching mechanics.


The Pokemon company owns the designs of the ball any replicas of them and the capture mechanics. That entire thing is a direct violation of the copyright owners. You can't just "change it a little" and it'll be okay.

That's not how copyright law works, there is nothing innovative about a minor change and pallet swaps.
The Rogue Gamer Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Xaelon:
This again? Yeah no. You can't sue someone for using a similar art style. Palworld and Pokemon have almost nothing in common gameplay wise.

Gamefreak didn't go after Coromon and Cassette beasts which are way closer to Pokemon's gameplay so why would they ignore those games but go after this one?


Did you not read what I said?

I specifically said the ball and the capture mechanics are strictly protected. The other game you mentioned do not use those mechanics or the ball. That part alone is a huge issue, if they got rid of it then there's no copyright problems.
Caduryn Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:53pm 
Whats up with all those insane stupid Troll Topics....
Xgpmcnp Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
My guy please. You're acting like Palworld's the only monster catching game using balls. You say that the "capture mechanics" are copyrighted, yet there's dozens upon dozens of titles that came before Palworld, some AAA ones in there too, that contain monster catching and taming or whatnot. Nintendo and most japanese devs are known to throw legal action easily, yet games like Temtem have easily passed before with nothing. Palworld's gonna be completely fine.
NiteNightKnight Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
If you look on steam There is a game called TemTem its been up and running with no issues on steam for 2 years with 0 issues while playing nearly exactly the same as pokemon but with different monsters and multiplayer.

If that game can continue running without any problems this game will be fine too. After all this game is much more like Ark anyways besides the capturing of animals to fight for you and bosses which you fight there isn't much else that is the same as pokemon
Last edited by NiteNightKnight; Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:55pm
DarkFenix Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Meeks!:
Originally posted by Johnny Macabre:
It's parody. As long as they don't use any REAL pokemon names or designs, they are safe. TONS of games have monster catching mechanics.


The Pokemon company owns the designs of the ball any replicas of them and the capture mechanics. That entire thing is a direct violation of the copyright owners. You can't just "change it a little" and it'll be okay.

That's not how copyright law works, there is nothing innovative about a minor change and pallet swaps.
You obviously have absolutely no idea how copyright law works. They do own the ball design, they have a copyright on that. They have no ownership over the concept of a pokeball (obviously nobody else is allowed to name it that), they have no ownership over the mechanic of capturing creatures. You literally can "just change it a little" and it's okay, because that is precisely how copyright law works.
Mr. Sicks Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:05pm 
Stop trying to explain things to idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Scyris Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:12pm 
Look if Nintendo hasn't done anything to Palworld by now, they aren't able to do so, with how rabid Nintendo is with protecting their Ips you can bet they'd have sued palworld into the ground if they had any basis to do it on, however legally they do not, so all Nintendo can really do is cope and seethe. Only way they could sue is if some pal looked identical to a pokemon, which none of them really do.

Originally posted by Meeks!:
Originally posted by Johnny Macabre:
It's parody. As long as they don't use any REAL pokemon names or designs, they are safe. TONS of games have monster catching mechanics.


The Pokemon company owns the designs of the ball any replicas of them and the capture mechanics. That entire thing is a direct violation of the copyright owners. You can't just "change it a little" and it'll be okay.

That's not how copyright law works, there is nothing innovative about a minor change and pallet swaps.

Actually they do not own the capture mechanics, it was in other games before pokemon was a thing. Also the capture item in Palworld is more of a diamond shape than a ball. Also splts completly in the middle and is not on a hinge like pokeballs are. There is more than enough of a difference for Palworld to be legally safe. The fact Nintendo hasn't does anything yet means they don't got a case to do it, as you know full well if they could they would. I mean Nintendo takes down fan remakes of 20+ year old games Nintendo has no plans to do anything with in the first place. Those fan remakes are also free, not for profit. With Palworld being a game to make money you can bet Nintendo would take them to court if they could, but they can't.

I also don't get why people seem to want palworld to get sued/taken to court so damn bad, you can like both games you know. Never know maybe this will make gamefreak actually make a pokemon game worth playing again, as there really hasn't been one since the gameboy era. Competition is good, it can foster change and things getting better.
Kitai Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Lol, that's not how copyrights work. Copyright is copying something to the "T" the pokeballs in this game are opening top and bottom, not one capsule flipping back open. Mojang could have sued COUNTLESS copies of minecraft clones, if and only if the copies didn't have small differences.
idk have you seen fan games? nintendo be stricking things down even if they arent 1:1 to the original mario bros or metroids.

this game is on the edge of borderline copyright issues, which if nintendo wants to they will sue them or dmca them, like every fan project.
Last edited by Kitai; Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:13pm
Xgpmcnp Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by Kitai:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Lol, that's not how copyrights work. Copyright is copying something to the "T" the pokeballs in this game are opening top and bottom, not one capsule flipping back open. Mojang could have sued COUNTLESS copies of minecraft clones, if and only if the copies didn't have small differences.
idk have you seen fan games? nintendo be stricking things down even if they arent 1:1 to the original mario bros or metroids.
Nintendo just sends a legal letter and people stop out of fear. Doesn't mean it holds in a court of law, just means the fangame creators don't want to lawyer up against a billion dollar company.
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Date Posted: Jan 18, 2024 @ 2:41pm
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