All leader boards need to be fully wiped

[Zefrous]

The leader boards need to be reset to zero. The current leader boards are all polluted with scores made by people using infinite money glitches, or hacks.

The only way to have a fun and competitive score board is if everyone has a chance to take part in it. If every single score on every map was made with infinite walls, maximum traps placed, and perfect mazes from wave 1, and is 100 Million points above the highest legitimate attempt it's not fun or competitive.

[Bear]

So what exactly makes you think that after wiping the boards, people won't use exploits, cheats and hacks again to pollute the leaderboards?

[Nimitz]

We know that 100 000 000 pts score are fake. I don't take them into account. All i want to know is if some high score are real or not. And that's the main problem we can't really trust some of the best high score.

You can't get 100M score in rift lord with only infinite money/trap whatever. Need more orc/wave or more combo point per mob.

[✨BizziLizzi✨]

What makes you assume people are cheating at all and why do you care so much? It's just a board of figures. It will not reward you with anything. Just leave it alone.

[OughaBoughaCavemen]

Originally posted by ✨BizziLizzi✨:

What makes you assume people are cheating at all and why do you care so much? It's just a board of figures. It will not reward you with anything. Just leave it alone.

I get him. I am still in the process of playing all the maps in every difficulty through but I was looking forward to maybe attempting some leaderboard climbs once I am done with anything else. This post defenitely makes me look forward to that much less.

[Grammar Communist]

Originally posted by ✨BizziLizzi✨:

What makes you assume people are cheating at all and why do you care so much? It's just a board of figures. It will not reward you with anything. Just leave it alone.

Well, when the 2 first score is 100millions+++, the third is at around 7 million, on a FIVE WAVE MAP, you know something fishy is going on.

About caring, that's called having a goal to reach, and it's extremely common in the video game world. Can't reach that goal if the leaderboard is polluted with cheating score.

That's not a hard concept to grasp.

[Zefrous]

While I can not confirm that the "hacks" are fixed the infinite money glitches did get fixed this patch.

As for point scores I think it may actually be possible to get 100M+ scores naturally in endless, and I want a chance to at least try to compete for those scores without these polluted leader boards.

[Liero]

Originally posted by ✨BizziLizzi✨:

What makes you assume people are cheating at all and why do you care so much? It's just a board of figures. It will not reward you with anything. Just leave it alone.

because people wants to be competitive? its their choice. the problem they're facing now is, the scoreboard is not clean.

Scoreboards have exist for so long. so dont just brush it off as just a "board of figures, no rewards". Sense of pride and accomplishment anyone?

[Psycho]

yea it seems like the global leaderboards in PC games are always cheated... i just try to compete with my friend's list scores and try to get #1 out of all my friends. i find that a lot more fun to do

[✨BizziLizzi✨]

They're only "polluted" if it's an actual bug or "cheat". Maybe if you could demonstrate some hard proof on how people may cheat with their score maybe the developers can actually look into it but there's no reason to assume that just because some player was able to achieve a much bigger number than yourself it must mean they were cheating. Score is based on your combo bonus so if you have more traps unlocked and make the most out of their status effects of course you will get a higher score and effectively use your trinkets will add even more additional status effects on the early levels giving you even more coins and higher score early on. What if someone spent hours trying to achieve that highscore only to have it erased because some random person on the forum believes she or he cheated, how is that fair? And what would stop someone else to do the same towards you in the future?

[Liero]

Originally posted by ✨BizziLizzi✨:

They're only "polluted" if it's an actual bug or "cheat". Maybe if you could demonstrate some hard proof on how people may cheat with their score maybe the developers can actually look into it but there's no reason to assume that just because some player was able to achieve a much bigger number than yourself it must mean they were cheating. Score is based on your combo bonus so if you have more traps unlocked and make the most out of their status effects of course you will get a higher score and effectively use your trinkets will add even more additional status effects on the early levels giving you even more coins and higher score early on. What if someone spent hours trying to achieve that highscore only to have it erased because some random person on the forum believes she or he cheated, how is that fair? And what would stop someone else to do the same towards you in the future?

i dont know how long you have been gaming, but literally every scoreboard on PC will have cheaters dominating in the first page.

It might be true that the scoreboard might not be polluted with cheaters, but it could also be true that it is polluted. Leaning towards a lot more on cheating, since the numbers are just too... huge and to get there you must at least spend A LOT of hours and dont forget that the enemies keep getting stronger and stronger and much more faster. So your traps will be obsolete at one point.

[✨BizziLizzi✨]

Originally posted by Eggy:

It might be true that the scoreboard might not be polluted with cheaters, but it could also be true that it is polluted. Leaning towards a lot more on cheating, since the numbers are just too... huge and to get there you must at least spend A LOT of hours and dont forget that the enemies keep getting stronger and stronger and much more faster. So your traps will be obsolete at one point.

So what you're saying is you have no proof, can't demonstrate an example through a video and you think that the developers will reset the leaderboard just to let you be on the top for a short moment. That would just compromise the whole point of a leaderboard in the first place. If you’re willing to reset the leaderboard without any proof at all that cheating is even a possibility then why do you even care about being on it. Obviously you don’t value its integrity. And no, saying that you can’t prove that people are not cheating is not an argument. That’s not how anything works. You provided a statement, it’s up to you to back it up with actual evidence, not for us to disprove it.

[Zaris]

Is it even possible to avoid hacked leaderboards on pc? I'm a programmer myself and if they did a really simple implementation they would just take the final score and push it to their online leaderboard which means you can manipulate the score with cheat engine and so on while playing and just put it on a high number which get send away.

Far Cry 4 had already stupid online boards for mini missions like driving through a race course. Normally you need about 1-2 minutes and the best scores were 0,01 seconds.

[Liero]

Originally posted by ✨BizziLizzi✨:

Originally posted by Eggy:

It might be true that the scoreboard might not be polluted with cheaters, but it could also be true that it is polluted. Leaning towards a lot more on cheating, since the numbers are just too... huge and to get there you must at least spend A LOT of hours and dont forget that the enemies keep getting stronger and stronger and much more faster. So your traps will be obsolete at one point.

So what you're saying is you have no proof, can't demonstrate an example through a video and you think that the developers will reset the leaderboard just to let you be on the top for a short moment. That would just compromise the whole point of a leaderboard in the first place. If you’re willing to reset the leaderboard without any proof at all that cheating is even a possibility then why do you even care about being on it. Obviously you don’t value its integrity. And no, saying that you can’t prove that people are not cheating is not an argument. That’s not how anything works. You provided a statement, it’s up to you to back it up with actual evidence, not for us to disprove it.

Okay, hold up. Whats with you and proof? There's literally a thread around here that ask for cheats and someone giving it.

You didnt care for scoreboard in the first place and now you want to keep the scoreboards intact as it is? It has been proven for Decades that scoreboards will eventually be filled with cheaters, and why think that OMD3 is any difference? Even a niche game with dozen of players have their scoreboards ruined by cheaters.

[Liero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5jI4mw3n8

here's your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ proof btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy4RHdnUuDA

I have more, do you want me to keep posting evidence? or do you intend to stop me so you can hide your embarrassment?

[✨BizziLizzi✨]

Originally posted by Zaris:

Is it even possible to avoid hacked leaderboards on pc? I'm a programmer myself and if they did a really simple implementation they would just take the final score and push it to their online leaderboard which means you can manipulate the score with cheat engine and so on while playing and just put it on a high number which get send away.

Far Cry 4 had already stupid online boards for mini missions like driving through a race course. Normally you need about 1-2 minutes and the best scores were 0,01 seconds.

I can't speak for everyone but I believe most people would agree with me that if you're an adult who makes a living as a programmer you probably have better things to do than waste your precious limited free time to cheat on leaderboard in random games. As an adult it's not an achievement, it's not a merit it's nothing. Completely pointless. Also what the heck is a cheat engine? Nothing what you said made any sense and I know a thing or two about programming as well.