Game Broken?

[Fideo]

I think something has gone wrong in this latest patch 2.20.

• Ralf and especially Shingo cause too much damage with their attacks.
  
  
• O.Shermie and Shermie have some hitboxes that make you wonder if it is possible to attack her with a character that does not throw fireballs.
  
  
• Mai has had cooldowns reduced/removed from her strongest attacks, so she can immediately dodge and you'll see your hits pass through her without hitting her. Could a ranged attack hit her? Maybe... if you play with a character who has this.
  They have also reduced her collision boxes, I can see Krohnen's drill go through her head while crouching but she crawls towards me with her kick and hits me ignoring my attack.
  
  
• King, there is nothing new, but it would be nice to give her a recovery time after throwing fireballs... it's the spamers' favorite, running to the corner while throwing fireballs in the air and on the ground.
  It would also be nice if after two years they fixed her anti-aircraft punch while she is crouching. She hits you without collision.
  
  
• I never thought I'd make a complaint about this... but Krohnen's drill is ignoring the opponent's damage absorbing attack (Down, Down + Forward, Forward + HP + HK). At least it happened to me fighting vs Ralf.
  
  
• Kyo, I'm watching this character do something they fixed a long time ago, when he gets hit with a low kick or punch he can use his anti-air attack during the hit animation.
  
  
• Kula.... Fix her anti-aircraft once and for all... (it's nothing new).

I could go on, but the long and short of it is that I hope they review the game without waiting 2 or 3 months.

[Dante]

I agree about King. There should be some recovery frames added after the projectile. She is broken AF right now after the latest patch.

[BadGuy`9999]

Man, leave Krohnen alone, he is the most nerfed character in history, Krohnen is almost useless, the truth is, almost nothing works with Krohnen. I had to practice a lot with Krohnen to get used to the limitation of movement, range, they took away everything that It made him a good character, his kick, his impact punch, the range of the drills, his combos are extremely limited, you can only warp in the corner but that is practically nothing, the only good thing he has is damage.You can no longer disappear a character, you yourselves must recognize that you are not that good at playing, if not all of them are broken, broken characters are CLARK, SHERMIE, GOENITZ, SHINGO, SILVIE,HAOHMARU, then we have those who border on broken and those who They are good characters.

[Kerby]

If there ever was need for more proof that the Dunning-Kruger effect is real.

Originally posted by Fideo:

• Kula.... Fix her anti-aircraft once and for all... (it's nothing new).

Holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. You can list the characters with a better vertical or horizontal control of the game than Kula on one hand. It's a very, very short list. Oh no! Her DP might trade every now and then... That definitely doesn't happen to nearly all of the cast outside of EX DPs. Not like she has at least 2-3 other options for AA.

[Fideo]

Originally posted by S'9999:

Man, leave Krohnen alone, he is the most nerfed character in history, Krohnen is almost useless, the truth is, almost nothing works with Krohnen. I had to practice a lot with Krohnen to get used to the limitation of movement, range, they took away everything that It made him a good character, his kick, his impact punch, the range of the drills, his combos are extremely limited, you can only warp in the corner but that is practically nothing, the only good thing he has is damage.You can no longer disappear a character, you yourselves must recognize that you are not that good at playing, if not all of them are broken, broken characters are CLARK, SHERMIE, GOENITZ, SHINGO, SILVIE,HAOHMARU, then we have those who border on broken and those who They are good characters.

Unfortunately you are right.
If Harada demonstrated anything, it is that any character can be balanced only by changing the number of frames used for its movements. That is, making his movements faster or slower. But everything else should remain the same, both range, hitbox and hurtbox....
What can be visually seen should happen in the game.

Both Krohnen and Kula were very powerful characters when the game was released. Unfortunately SNK makes the balances without taking into account the comments of the players and from one day to the next they became completely useless characters for online.
Kula was also broken, I don't remember if it was for 4 or 6 months, when you used Ray Spin you saw how she gave several spinning kicks to the opponent crossing it without hitting it, an error that you hope will be fixed in less than a week, but no... .

This type of balance is frustrating, and the time taken to fix errors is excessive. Better to slowly weaken them until you find a balance than to render them useless and then have to make them stronger, even more so considering the way they are balancing, reducing or eliminating hurtbox and the like.

Although it is not the worst state the game has, it is undoubtedly one of the worst and since there is no more news I wonder if they will fix any of this.

Originally posted by S'9999:

broken characters are CLARK, SHERMIE, GOENITZ, SHINGO, SILVIE,HAOHMARU

I think you should have mentioned Yashiro too.

[Fideo]

Originally posted by Kerby:

Holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. You can list the characters with a better vertical or horizontal control of the game than Kula on one hand. It's a very, very short list. Oh no! Her DP might trade every now and then... That definitely doesn't happen to nearly all of the cast outside of EX DPs. Not like she has at least 2-3 other options for AA.

I can list all the characters with an attack similar to Kula's 'Crow Bite' and they ALL work correctly. All except Kula's.

Note: 'Crow Bite' worked correctly until the game's first balance patch.

[Fideo]

Ryo seems to have become among the untouchables... most of his hits seem to take precedence over yours and even if you hit him first, he will be the one who hits you, ignoring your attacks.

The current state of the game is frustrating... Not just for this character, but for several of them.
Immortal frames, no recovery times after attacks, damage both in combos and in concatenated specials with ridiculously high damage, hitbox reduced in characters and increased in others as well as hurtbox reduction in other characters giving rise to collisions that do not exist and vice versa.
The trajectory of the game's balance over these years has been SNK's weakest point and when they have had something decent they have destroyed it between the last two patches (2.20 and earlier), with changes that do not even appear in the notes of said patches.
With this I say goodbye to the online until they release a new patch.

The game director should resign, not only for this but because from day one he has made KoF XV lose countless players, giving priority to releasing DLCs before fixing the online or working on the balance and currently the game is not suitable for the incorporation of any new player, the current balance is crap, there is not even coherence between what is seen visually and the actions that occur consequently, a new player is not going to find fun, he is going to find frustration.

[Magneto Was Right!]

characters hit you and dodge backwards, dodge forwards and have attack priority, attacking a fallen character has no advantage. It's because most of the time you're knocked down the opponent jumps back, taking two steps back makes you immune to low hits and fireballs is absurd, pressing a hard button and dodging backwards is absurd for a long distance. and a long time of invulnerability, Ryo hits you when he's hit, Shermie hits you at any time and at any point, king and athena shoot endless fireballs, Isla, I don't even want to talk, the character is completely broken. Characters with high jumps can punish you if you are in the corner and everyone else cannot. Terry doesn't have negative frames, he makes an absurd living spending almost nothing or nothing in the same boat as Ryo. May no negative frames here is seriously none. Characters are super broken while others are completely crippled. two back and dodge back and back C for grab discourages you from continuing to play. I can say that this is one of the most unfair and joyless games I have played. SUCK.

[DraWol]

I think it was broken from the start, but the problem is that KOF fans are masochists - instead of complaining they accustom to broken mechanics.