What is the difference between Rebirth and Remake Intergrade?

[Tilarta]

Since I am confused by two games existing, I asked the internet to explain.
All I got was a brief explanation stating this version is Rebirth and the Yuffie DLC combined.

Since that wasn't very clarifying, can some people explain what the differences are?

[Weltall8000]

Essentially, Remake is part one of the "Remake trilogy." Rebirth is part two.

This is Remake INTERgrade, which is Remake plus its DLC (INTERmission) baked in.

[Anjektus]

Remake Intergreat is the first game in Squiere Enix trilogy Remake of their Final Fantasy VIII fame from 1997.
And the forst game is a 40hours game that covers the 7 first hours in Midgar. And Rebirth is Part 2. It is kind of an open world game and it stops at a very importent part of the original game (No spoiler).

[Tilarta]

So if I understand this correctly, Rebirth does not yet exist on PC?

I saw a lot of articles speculating about a potential PC release date, but that was all there was, speculation.
The theory is when Rebirth finishes whatever exclusivity contracts is restricting the release to PC and the Steam marketplace.

[Arthur]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

So if I understand this correctly, Rebirth does not yet exist on PC?

I saw a lot of articles speculating about a potential PC release date, but that was all there was, speculation.
The theory is when Rebirth finishes whatever exclusivity contracts is restricting the release to PC and the Steam marketplace.

Yes. And its pretty much confirmed that it will release on PC, since every other FF title did as well (Final Fantasy 16 released on PS5 last year and it just recently arrived on PC).

To summarize, FF7 is being remade into a trilogy:

Part 1: FF7 Intergrade - Originally a PS4 exclusive, now on PC
Part 2: FF7 Rebirth - Currently a PS5 exclusive, will launch on PC soon, probably next year
Part 3: FF7 "Reunion" (title unconfirmed/speculation) - Not yet announced, probably a late PS5 title as well

You might've gotten some confusing answers on the internet because part 1 was originally just titled "Final Fantasy 7 Remake". The "Intergrade" version is sort of a "complete edition" that released on PS5 with the Yuffie DLC and was later ported to PC. It has nothing to do with Rebirth. Rebirth is the sequel to Intergrade.

[Weltall8000]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

So if I understand this correctly, Rebirth does not yet exist on PC?

I saw a lot of articles speculating about a potential PC release date, but that was all there was, speculation.
The theory is when Rebirth finishes whatever exclusivity contracts is restricting the release to PC and the Steam marketplace.

Correct, Rebirth has not released on PC yet.

People speculated that, but as some of us pointed out, that was not a safe bet. It was a three month guaranteed exclusivity window with Sony for PS5. That came and went, and still no announcement.

[Koby]

I suspect Rebirth will hit PC likely late Spring 2025, which follows the release time table of FF16.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

The theory is when Rebirth finishes whatever exclusivity contracts is restricting the release to PC and the Steam marketplace.

They actually advertised the exclusivity was only for three months. But that's of course the earliest it could have been, and obviously nothing happened yet.

My guess is right around the year mark, i.e. end of February/beginning of March.

[Tilarta]

I am assuming Rebirth PC will be a seperate game purchase.
If this preposition is correct, does that mean that Remake Intergrade will have a savegame transfer state option?
Like if used, Rebirth will start off all the characters as having the stats/gear from what was earned in the first game.

If so, then I assume a player coming into the new game without having played the first chapter will be at a disadvantage in terms of stats, gear, etc.

The articles speculating on PC release date stated that there will be an additional delay due to Epic Games' rivalry with Steam, that EG doesn't want Steam to have the game on the same day the release into their storefront goes live.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

I am assuming Rebirth PC will be a seperate game purchase.
If this preposition is correct, does that mean that Remake Intergrade will have a savegame transfer state option?
Like if used, Rebirth will start off all the characters as having the stats/gear from what was earned in the first game.

If so, then I assume a player coming into the new game without having played the first chapter will be at a disadvantage in terms of stats, gear, etc.

The articles speculating on PC release date stated that there will be an additional delay due to Epic Games' rivalry with Steam, that EG doesn't want Steam to have the game on the same day the release into their storefront goes live.

Yes it's separate.

No, Rebirth does not carry over anything from Remake save. You only get two bonus Summon materia for having Remake save.

[Tilarta]

So after grinding XP and gear in the first game, I start the 2nd game with nothing?
I can not seriously believe I have to fight Jenova's arm as starter level.

Which 2 materia are earned?

[Koby]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

So after grinding XP and gear in the first game, I start the 2nd game with nothing?
I can not seriously believe I have to fight Jenova's arm as starter level.

Which 2 materia are earned?

Leviathan and Ramuh.

[Arthur]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

So after grinding XP and gear in the first game, I start the 2nd game with nothing?
I can not seriously believe I have to fight Jenova's arm as starter level.

Which 2 materia are earned?

Well... Its a sequel, not a DLC.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

The articles speculating on PC release date stated that there will be an additional delay due to Epic Games' rivalry with Steam, that EG doesn't want Steam to have the game on the same day the release into their storefront goes live.

Not sure why Epic would have any say in that unless SQEX signed a contract with them for all the games in the trilogy, which I would doubt.

[Arthur]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Tilarta:

The articles speculating on PC release date stated that there will be an additional delay due to Epic Games' rivalry with Steam, that EG doesn't want Steam to have the game on the same day the release into their storefront goes live.

Not sure why Epic would have any say in that unless SQEX signed a contract with them for all the games in the trilogy, which I would doubt.

This. They also released FF16 on both platforms at the same time, unlike Intergrade which was temporarily exclusive to Epic, which can only mean they realized the temporay exclusivity deal isn't worth it, since Intergrade likely sold a lot more on Steam.

[Tilarta]

So was Mass Effect 2 and I got an instant level 30 for importing the ME1 savegame.
I don't remember what benefit was obtained from an ME2>ME3 transfer, but I think level just carried over.

Originally posted by Arthur:

Intergrade which was temporarily exclusive to Epic.

That is probably the reason behind the speculation.
If Epic did this once with the first part of the game, then they might use this sales tactic again.