Running out of funds, what's your strategy early game ?

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

As i said, i'm running out of funds and with traning grounds not giving anything, i find hard sustaining battles after battles for consumables and new gear...

I sold everything i had in surplus for a whopping 20k Goth, those funds are almost depleted with gear upgrades...

It there an early solution to this or, if not, at what point you unlock the first dungeon ?

[Mindmaker]

Supposedly you can farm in dungeons later.

[Grandork]

I mean, are you still on Chapter 1? Chapter 2 unlocks the dungeon you can farm. But, realistically speaking, you should never need money unless you are ignoring everything and going straight for the objective kill.

[GrandMajora]

Do the Pharompa Wildwoods. I just cleared the whole place out, and brought back enough coins to cash in for 100k Goth.

And that's not including all the excess loot I can sell off.

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

Originally posted by Grandork:

I mean, are you still on Chapter 1? Chapter 2 unlocks the dungeon you can farm. But, realistically speaking, you should never need money unless you are ignoring everything and going straight for the objective kill.

Yes sill in chapter one. I just finished Lake Bordu fight and needed to kill the target relatively quicky because even with 2 clerics and 3 knights with healing spell, i can't sustain the whole party and was forced to go kill Grion when one of my cleric went sleeping for 3 turns...

My characters were 1 level above ennemies...
The aftermath of said fight :

Loot = +3.5K Goth
Madatory consumables and gear upgrades = -8K Goth...

On average i loose 1.5K Goth per fight...

[Grandork]

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

Originally posted by Grandork:

I mean, are you still on Chapter 1? Chapter 2 unlocks the dungeon you can farm. But, realistically speaking, you should never need money unless you are ignoring everything and going straight for the objective kill.

Yes sill in chapter one. I just finished Lake Bordu fight and needed to kill the target relatively quicky because even with 2 clerics and 3 knights with healing spell, i can't sustain the whole party and was forced to go kill Grion when one of my cleric went sleeping for 3 turns...

My characters were 1 level above ennemies...
The aftermath of said fight :

Loot = +3.5K Goth
Madatory consumables and gear upgrades = -8K Goth...

On average i loose 1.5K Goth per fight...

You need to sell the gear you looted.

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

Originally posted by Grandork:

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

Yes sill in chapter one. I just finished Lake Bordu fight and needed to kill the target relatively quicky because even with 2 clerics and 3 knights with healing spell, i can't sustain the whole party and was forced to go kill Grion when one of my cleric went sleeping for 3 turns...

My characters were 1 level above ennemies...
The aftermath of said fight :

Loot = +3.5K Goth
Madatory consumables and gear upgrades = -8K Goth...

On average i loose 1.5K Goth per fight...

You need to sell the gear you looted.

Yes that was included in the +3.5K Goth obtained... And my average money loss also includes unused gear sells...

[Gaz O'D]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1451090/discussions/0/5239403117942701310/

Here's the answer to your problems.

[Lacdanan]

Originally posted by Gaz O'D:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1451090/discussions/0/5239403117942701310/

If you read his post, he's asking about how you make money boefore chapter 2. you can't craft at this point, and the dungeons aren't available

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

Yes sill in chapter one. I just finished Lake Bordu fight and needed to kill the target relatively quicky because even with 2 clerics and 3 knights with healing spell, i can't sustain the whole party and was forced to go kill Grion when one of my cleric went sleeping for 3 turns...

My characters were 1 level above ennemies...
The aftermath of said fight :

Loot = +3.5K Goth
Madatory consumables and gear upgrades = -8K Goth...

On average i loose 1.5K Goth per fight...

As I said, do Pharompa Wildwood. It unlocks at some point in Chapter 2, but you gotta read the Warren Reports to open it.

Just from running a single map from the dungeon, you get 30 bronze coins. But near the end, you start getting 15 Silver and 10 Gold.

If you clear out every map, you should come away with 100k Goth worth of coins all together. Plus whatever excess loot you plan to sell off.

Also, upgrade everybody's gear to +1's once you get access to the Crafting mechanic. It really seems to help out a lot.

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

Yes sill in chapter one. I just finished Lake Bordu fight and needed to kill the target relatively quicky because even with 2 clerics and 3 knights with healing spell, i can't sustain the whole party and was forced to go kill Grion when one of my cleric went sleeping for 3 turns...

My characters were 1 level above ennemies...
The aftermath of said fight :

Loot = +3.5K Goth
Madatory consumables and gear upgrades = -8K Goth...

On average i loose 1.5K Goth per fight...

As I said, do Pharompa Wildwood. It unlocks at some point in Chapter 2, but you gotta read the Warren Reports to open it.

Just from running a single map from the dungeon, you get 30 bronze coins. But near the end, you start getting 15 Silver and 10 Gold.

If you clear out every map, you should come away with 100k Goth worth of coins all together. Plus whatever excess loot you plan to sell off.

Also, upgrade everybody's gear to +1's once you get access to the Crafting mechanic. It really seems to help out a lot.

My point is :

Getting to chapter two without running out of funds when you have a net money loss every battle in CHAPTER 1...

[Lacdanan]

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

As I said, do Pharompa Wildwood. It unlocks at some point in Chapter 2, but you gotta read the Warren Reports to open it.

Just from running a single map from the dungeon, you get 30 bronze coins. But near the end, you start getting 15 Silver and 10 Gold.

If you clear out every map, you should come away with 100k Goth worth of coins all together. Plus whatever excess loot you plan to sell off.

Also, upgrade everybody's gear to +1's once you get access to the Crafting mechanic. It really seems to help out a lot.

My point is :

Getting to chapter two without running out of funds when you have a net money loss every battle in CHAPTER 1...

It's sad, but this is the actual answer. I'n this version, with out being able to get money from random battles, you're boned if you don't use your money wisely. This sucks if you've been messing around trying to get the units you want with as much of the best gear you can get. I imagine its possible to lock yourself into an impossible situation at the end of chapter 1, where you really need to have the best gear on at least a few characters to control the fights. A restart might be the only option.

[[Ygg]Azarhiel]

Originally posted by Lacdanan:

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

My point is :

Getting to chapter two without running out of funds when you have a net money loss every battle in CHAPTER 1...

It's sad, but this is the actual answer. I'n this version, with out being able to get money from random battles, you're boned if you don't use your money wisely. This sucks if you've been messing around trying to get the units you want with as much of the best gear you can get. I imagine its possible to lock yourself into an impossible situation at the end of chapter 1, where you really need to have the best gear on at least a few characters to control the fights. A restart might be the only option.

Well i'll see what happens... From what i've gathered, i'm almost at chapter 2... Last battles wwill be tough without re-supplying consumables...

[Lacdanan]

It should be fine, the AI isn't overly smart and can be cheesed, you could probably beat chapter 1 with basic gear if you have the patience for it.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Lacdanan:

It's sad, but this is the actual answer. I'n this version, with out being able to get money from random battles, you're boned if you don't use your money wisely. This sucks if you've been messing around trying to get the units you want with as much of the best gear you can get. I imagine its possible to lock yourself into an impossible situation at the end of chapter 1, where you really need to have the best gear on at least a few characters to control the fights. A restart might be the only option.

I politely disagree. As somebody who's made it through the game up to Chapter 3 so far, while barely using any items at all (save for the revival stones), I can confidently say that not having enough money to restock your supplies isn't really the problem.

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

My point is :

Getting to chapter two without running out of funds when you have a net money loss every battle in CHAPTER 1...

Training sessions are free to do, and your characters don't permanently die from them. So there's no reason to bring along any items when you try to run them.

If you're still in Chapter 1, then the level cap of what you can reach should usually be higher than the enemies you'll be running into on story mode. With them only reaching equal footing with you right before the cap increases once again.

Just auto run a bunch of training sessions to keep yourself at the cap, and you should be over leveled for most of the Chapter 1 fights.

[Lacdanan]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Lacdanan:

It's sad, but this is the actual answer. I'n this version, with out being able to get money from random battles, you're boned if you don't use your money wisely. This sucks if you've been messing around trying to get the units you want with as much of the best gear you can get. I imagine its possible to lock yourself into an impossible situation at the end of chapter 1, where you really need to have the best gear on at least a few characters to control the fights. A restart might be the only option.

I politely disagree. As somebody who's made it through the game up to Chapter 3 so far, while barely using any items at all (save for the revival stones), I can confidently say that not having enough money to restock your supplies isn't really the problem.

Originally posted by YggAzarhiel:

My point is :

Getting to chapter two without running out of funds when you have a net money loss every battle in CHAPTER 1...

Training sessions are free to do, and your characters don't permanently die from them. So there's no reason to bring along any items when you try to run them.

If you're still in Chapter 1, then the level cap of what you can reach should usually be higher than the enemies you'll be running into on story mode. With them only reaching equal footing with you right before the cap increases once again.

Just auto run a bunch of training sessions to keep yourself at the cap, and you should be over leveled for most of the Chapter 1 fights.

I agree, as i rarely use items and so never have to restock. I mostly get more of them than i need after battles anyway. I was saying not having money for gear upgrades might be a problem if you DO use a lot items, and screw yourself before you have a way to make the money back.