NG+ is completely unbalanced

[Lahoo Eckbert]

The game is new but it's pretty obvious that ng+ isn't properly play tested.
Starting from Two Chivalrous heroes, game is much harder than the last mission of NG, but you are getting less qi and garbage drops compared to what you are getting from the last missions of previous playthrough.
Also if you are using a light armor build like me, don't bother playing because the ape boss two shots you with regular hits and one shots you with special attacks.

[VeraelHasta]

Well you chose to wear light armor my dude. Get good or change fore heavier stuff so it can compensate for mistakes.

Light armor is always something you can use IF you are good enough. It usually has the best damage, but also you can die easly.

[Kitoshi]

Welcome to team ninja ng+ lmao.

This is just how it is, I finished ng+ on light armor l and it's just like VeraelHasta said. Your choice to wear light armor, get good or swap to heavy armor. You can also overlevel your morale and just facetank everything.

[Lahoo Eckbert]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Well you chose to wear light armor my dude. Get good or change fore heavier stuff so it can compensate for mistakes.

Light armor is always something you can use IF you are good enough. It usually has the best damage, but also you can die easly.

I guess I'll have to invest in earth a bit and change the gear.
The problem is though, it was completely different in nioh 2, the defense difference between light and heavy armor wasn't so vast that it made using light armor unviable. The main difference was the "toughness."
Changing the gear will also mean I won't be able to get the set bonuses I get from the libationer set.
Def needs balancing.

[kripcision]

the one thing about the NG+ that i think needs addressing is the fact that they still give you the tiniest QI stones? 300 qi does f all at this point. a few people complained about the loot in nioh 2 but i wish they would have given us the same loot system and the improvements through the difficulties but whatever minor issue really.

but what you were saying about the APE lol at this point his moves should be easy to read, regardless if can get one shotted by one of his red attacks, there are very easy to parry or dodge.

[Tiasmoon]

Light Armor in both Nioh's also ment taking huge damage in NG+

[Žviks]

Nothing new for a NG+ in a Team Ninja game. Although it's a lot easier than Nioh still. If you beat NG, I don't see why would you have troubles in NG+ despite enemies hitting harder. Deflect timings haven't changed, you still do insane poise damage deflecting red attacks and hp damage on fatal strikes. There's just room for less mistakes which are not easy to make in this game except against out of place boss with his insane HP Lu Bu maybe since the fight is quite long.

[Kashra Fall]

Just for reference, it's balanced fine. TN's policy on play testing is making sure that people can get through areas/bosses while armored, by doing so unarmored. If one of their team can do it, it's considered fair. If you're in light armor, then just deflect/block better. I wear the general of man armor, which is like 18% weight so I am A agility and I take extra damage everytime I deflect, but I do more in response. Just block for safety, deflect when needed.

[rosnar]

just parry forhead ;)

[Vaati]

Light armour build, lmao. In any event its called light armour, if it reduced attacks to mere glancing blows heavier armour would need to be lighter in order to make it seem appealing or simply reduce damage even more, i assume you dont need to be told that would be silly and detrimental to the difficulty.

If you wanna run light armour you'll need to get real good about deflecting and spirit management because as you've observed you cannot take hits.

I do agree though the ground loot should be updated to account for your higher level.

[CLG]

NG was way too easy, NG+ is tougher but its still easily do able. The game is only going to get even harder when the other dlcs come out.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by Lahoo Eckbert:

The game is new but it's pretty obvious that ng+ isn't properly play tested.
Starting from Two Chivalrous heroes, game is much harder than the last mission of NG, but you are getting less qi and garbage drops compared to what you are getting from the last missions of previous playthrough.
Also if you are using a light armor build like me, don't bother playing because the ape boss two shots you with regular hits and one shots you with special attacks.

Wait, what!? You got destroyed by the ape boss!? That thing is easy. There's a sub mission later against just the ape boss that's one of the best missions to farm 5* equipment from, because he's an easy-quick kill.

Bro, I ran heavy armor through all of NG and NG+, it gets hit for less. I also had a decent amount of points put into wood stat, so I had more HP and spirit defense as well. Eating a red attack took about half my HP bar instead of the whole thing.

[HighLanderPony]

If you don't get hit it doesn't matter that you die in one hit. RollSmart

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Well you chose to wear light armor my dude. Get good or change fore heavier stuff so it can compensate for mistakes.

Light armor is always something you can use IF you are good enough. It usually has the best damage, but also you can die easly.

The weight of your armor doesn't correlate with your damage output in any way, especially in NG+ with a 150 level cap. Plenty of weapons scale very well with earth. You can get B agility with heavy armor with about 34 points into earth. Imposing stab (earth) is also very good damage if you slot stone attack on each of your pieces, and still does really good damage even in NG+.

Bosses like this ape boss for example get totally and completely eviscerated with imposing stab spam. It hits for 150 damage ticks, so 150x5 = 750 damage straight up with no fatal strike, you can blast him with 2-3 before landing the fatal strike, and with another 2-3 after landing a fatal strike. Also, when I see the ape boss doing his red attack, the drop kick one, I got time to lay down imposing stab so he runs right into it, and still time the deflect.

Stone is stronk (say that in a deep Russian accent) in this game.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Well you chose to wear light armor my dude. Get good or change fore heavier stuff so it can compensate for mistakes.

Light armor is always something you can use IF you are good enough. It usually has the best damage, but also you can die easly.

The weight of your armor doesn't correlate with your damage output in any way, especially in NG+ with a 150 level cap. Plenty of weapons scale very well with earth. You can get B agility with heavy armor with about 34 points into earth. Imposing stab (earth) is also very good damage if you slot stone attack on each of your pieces, and still does really good damage even in NG+.

Bosses like this ape boss for example get totally and completely eviscerated with imposing stab spam. It hits for 150 damage ticks, so 150x5 = 750 damage straight up with no fatal strike, you can blast him with 2-3 before landing the fatal strike, and with another 2-3 after landing a fatal strike. Also, when I see the ape boss doing his red attack, the drop kick one, I got time to lay down imposing stab so he runs right into it, and still time the deflect.

Stone is stronk (say that in a deep Russian accent) in this game.

It does corelate in a weird way. You use less spirit and gain less spirit with light armor. So you can spam more martial arts/magic and have easier time building positive spirit for spirit attacks - which deal mroe damage the mroe spirit you have.

[Napalm®]

Just tried NG+ and I got pwnt by the first boss quite a few times (deja vu lol).
I got the first phase pretty reliably but I have to do basically a no hit run since he one shots me with 70% of attacks, and 100% of them drain all my spirit.
Paused for now til I come up with a better plan :D
P.S. Are all NG+ bosses +5 morale?