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UwU Clare Jul 13, 2023 @ 3:10pm
Just let me be demoted back to bronze please!
I've had enough of these consecutive loss streaks for now. An occasional win isn't enough motivation to keep getting curb stomped like this. A few demotion prevention grace losses should be all that is needed to keep people who belong in a league up there. Being stuck in this perpetual hell where I can't seem to win about half the time is no good. Thanks!

Update: I think I'm at a 35.84% win rate on Ranked Cammy currently:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003912904

I went from Bronze 3 to Silver 1 during a win streak a few weeks ago and have been losing a lot more since then. It's really gotten worse in the last week or two. I'm getting better but the matches I've been seeing are getting even better than that and seem to be improving more quickly. I'm also still seeing a lot of matches that sure seem Smurfy. Quite a few new challengers seem to have some abnormally large win streaks. A streak of up to 5 or so isn't uncommon to see but I've run into a few with double that.

Update2: Got very lucky the last few days. I may have gotten a little better but the average skill level of the matches I've been encountering has gotten way lower. Usually things are way more one sided. Somehow managed to get barely get 10 wins in a row with a bunch of mostly very close matches. Lost it to a Juri by a similar sliver. Right after that I ran into a trolling smurf Blanka. Surprising lack of more conventional and/or cheap spamming smurfs during this time. The couple hours of playtime and insane skills really gives smurfs away. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3006308795
Last edited by UwU Clare; Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:34pm
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SparsePrawn891 Jul 13, 2023 @ 3:16pm 
if u so bad then why arent you in bronze? i dont understand why people openly admit to want to smurf just so they can win more
Replicant Jul 13, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
Ranking system is setup to stop smurfs in the lower ranks. I know losing can be really frustrating and demoralizing. Just keep at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWPb5bUx9TM
Hidebehind Jul 13, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by SparsePrawn891:
if u so bad then why arent you in bronze? i dont understand why people openly admit to want to smurf just so they can win more
What the hell are you talking about? The person is saying that his skills do not match the rank he received, but the rank does not change.
YT_RealDahmni Jul 13, 2023 @ 5:50pm 
what rank would you be in if you had your choice you can pick another character if you so choose and go and do your placement matches and play accordingly . hope that helps
Lysamus Jul 13, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
It can get frustrating if you're fixated on the outcome (Win/Loss) and now allowing yourself to enjoy the journey. Understandable as fighting games traditionally do a terrible job of motivating players through losses.

I recommend setting small goals for yourself and focusing on achieving those instead of worrying about whether or not you win a particular bout. Watch your replays, look for areas where you can improve, then set a small, specific goal based on your observations (Example: I'll focus on anti-airing more and will stuff 1 jump in with an anti-air. I'll try to get this one simple combo off. I'll try to be more patience and block the next meaty. Etc.)

Taking this approach will help you feel motivated when you accomplish the goals you set for yourself. As a fortunate biproduct, you will also improve, which means you will also start to win more matches against tougher opponents.
ShadowSplit Jul 13, 2023 @ 9:26pm 
I think you should firstly ask yourself why are you losing. Defeats are no reason why one should give up on progress and downgrade themselves.
breast milk🥛 Jul 13, 2023 @ 9:42pm 
Hey buddy, I'm a gold ranked Juri and I have around 33-34% win. 504 wins out of around 1500 matches. it is what it is. Keep playing in your rank and you'll get better. It took me like a week and a half to go from silver to gold, but I did get better
Originally posted by ShadowSplit:
I think you should firstly ask yourself why are you losing. Defeats are no reason why one should give up on progress and downgrade themselves.

Seems to always be because they play Juri or Cammy, two characters that require little to no skill, thought or effort.

And they end up paying for it in ranks where their mindless inputs spam aren't viable anymore.

As a Gief player, a character that requires actually a lot more effort than even normal characters, I'd be lying if I said I don't love to see it.

Just made Gold after 170 matches (regardless of what the triggered folks might say, it's pretty good for someone who not only plays Gief and who never bought a Fighting Game before), and I'm really pleased to meet so little Juris and Cammys there.
Every match is fun now, win or lose.
ShadowSplit Jul 13, 2023 @ 10:03pm 
Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:
Seems to always be because they play Juri or Cammy, two characters that require little to no skill, thought or effort.

And they end up paying for it in ranks where their mindless inputs spam aren't viable anymore.

As a Gief player, a character that requires actually a lot more effort than even normal characters, I'd be lying if I said I don't love to see it.

Just made Gold after 170 matches (regardless of what the triggered folks might say, it's pretty good for someone who not only plays Gief and who never bought a Fighting Game before), and I'm really pleased to meet so little Juris and Cammys there.
Every match is fun now, win or lose.
For that, I do not know.

I personally have troubles playing and improving. And I lose a lot. Sometimes it's me, sometimes is input related and sometimes my opponent is just better. As I'm having issues with right hand, I can't even press buttons properly. But I get around.

Well, Gief is the only honest grappler in this game and was in SFV. You have someone ridiculous like Manon that makes significanly more damage than Gief and has stacks. Absolute abomination of a character.

I'm still silver Chun, playing with gold and above. It's difficult.
Nearlydead Jul 13, 2023 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:
Originally posted by ShadowSplit:
I think you should firstly ask yourself why are you losing. Defeats are no reason why one should give up on progress and downgrade themselves.

Seems to always be because they play Juri or Cammy, two characters that require little to no skill, thought or effort.

And they end up paying for it in ranks where their mindless inputs spam aren't viable anymore.

As a Gief player, a character that requires actually a lot more effort than even normal characters, I'd be lying if I said I don't love to see it.

Just made Gold after 170 matches (regardless of what the triggered folks might say, it's pretty good for someone who not only plays Gief and who never bought a Fighting Game before), and I'm really pleased to meet so little Juris and Cammys there.
Every match is fun now, win or lose.
Don't use your or their characters as an excuse. Tiers don't matter at Silver/Gold rank.
Gief might be low tier but that shouldn't stop you from SPDing people all day in that rank, as he's way more effective in lower ranks.
Zoid13 Jul 13, 2023 @ 10:24pm 
@OP

just stop worrying about rank and wins.
just go intoo the matches with a singular goal. like "in this match im going to prevent 100% of the opponents jump ins with my anti airs"
and keep at those small goals till you as per the example do actually start preventing them from jumping in on you completely.
then once you have that down on reflex start another small goal of "teching throw attempts" ect
and take those as wins when you succeed regardless of the outcome of the match.

you'll get better.

if you just keep going in without a game plan for improvement and just trying to randomly tunnel a win as your only goal you wont improve much.
Gabe Ate My Zombies Jul 13, 2023 @ 11:02pm 
I jumped up to Cammy gold immediately and just got the game but played SF4 for years.

If you want to just play a character and press the buttons to do the damage, stop playing Cammy. Hear me out, I know this seems like a gatekeep, but you need to understand what makes her good.

You can use your hooligan, aerial spike, and your meaty meaty normals to keep people entirely locked on the ground. If you can't get them into your oki mixups or against the wall, you are absolutely going to have a bad time trying to fish out a random c.MK > 236K.

People in lower ranks are going to turtle really hard or be mashing buttons like there's no tomorrow, so use it as an opportunity to deal with people who have bad habits. It may seem like their strategies are good, but they tend to be flawed in that they're only focused on doing one thing really well or are going off a really predictable set of movements. Are they mashing buttons? Crush counter and punish hard. Are they turtling? Walk them into the corner, slowly gaining space until they have to jump over you or deal with your corner pressure.

If people are jumping at you a lot, cannon spike them or air throw. Your air throw comes out faster than any attack in the game and can be used on reaction to squish people who try to jump over you. You can also use b.MP as an anti-air and b.HK as an anti-air can be followed up with a special or super.

Your drive is very important in that you need to use parry drive cancel to close distance for situations where they're floating in the air after a hit or on the ground and you're too far away to do your meaty meat meats. It's a good gap closer but a lot of players are just waiting until they see jingle key movement so baiting is the way a lot of the time.

j.LK crosses up. Abuse it in low ranks. You can tiger knee your air spike by doing the input then jumping. Use MK at max range to set up good spacing for your air spikes so you don't get punished for them, though honestly they kind of suck in a lot of situations and you're better off just doing oki using hooligan or feinting out of it into a throw. Feinting hooligan is a good way to beat Ryu/Ken players who like to back up, spam projectiles, and shoryu with their instant 1-button modern control special input.

Lastly, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, do all of the combo trials like they're a religion and do them several times. They are impractical for the most part, but them being STUPIDLY SPECIFIC AND HARD makes them perfect for giving you a combo tool for every move and situation you find yourself in. The most important ones for basic survival are c.lk c.lp 236k and counter c.mp c.mp > anything really. You get a counter c.mp you know you can do another one, an EX spiral arrow (the flashy yellow one) and then a level 2 super for freesies. Practice this confirm because people will give you several chances a game at low ranks by throwing out random wakeup shoryus which you can get a free counter combo on for big damage.

EDIT: Seriously, you don't want to be in Gold. It's just people who fell all the way to the back of the Bad Habit Bus and every character is a flowchart Ken now. I thought it would be more like Third Strike with the parry but any time I see a modern control scheme I know it's going to be an absolute slog of a game against somebody who has a really specific and boring strategy. I don't mind Guile players, but a Luke who's backing up the entire game until he gets a chance to try a tic throw and fail for the 57th time isn't fun to play against.
Last edited by Gabe Ate My Zombies; Jul 13, 2023 @ 11:16pm
Many-Named Jul 14, 2023 @ 12:22am 
isn't a working ranking system supposed to keep you at more or less 50% win/loss?
Sir Azzy Jul 14, 2023 @ 12:38am 
Thing is (from what I've read) - league demotions aren’t possible in Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Gold. So OP cannot go down a league, and is forced to stay in silver, after the win streak.

To the OP - you can start playing with different character, in ranked, or man up and work on getting better at the game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/13xiury/no_demotion_through_gold/
Shoah Kahn (Banned) Jul 14, 2023 @ 12:44am 
The game gets scrubbier and more obnoxious the higher the "ranks". That is because those who have the highest points, are those who likely played the beta (even the cracked one) for tens / hundreds of hours, and have mastered all the rote patterns and v.1.0 broken stuff, and have been hording points since launch. With the way the points system works (successive wins award exponentially increasing points), the correlation between scrubs and points, is almost causal.

I'm nearly Platinum, and I've now considering down-ranking deliberately, as the Gold, Platinum and Diamond players I'm being matches with are garbage to play -- either "Modern" scrubs, or the aforementioned cheese players who aren't even playing to play a proper fighting game (to whatever extent SF6 even allows for thus).

"Rank" in this game, perhaps more than any other, is the least accurate indicator of skill. If anything, 95% of the time, the higher the rank, the worse the player style and skill (disambiguation: knowing how to win via the game's myriad exploits).
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