Galactic Civilizations IV

Galactic Civilizations IV

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nazgull2k1 Dec 20, 2023 @ 3:47pm
This AI generation thing is just AWFUL
So yeah.. can we just all admit now that this whole "AI" thing is about as useful to this game as a 2nd scrotum? Its never once worked for anything Ive ever put in it.

Insofar as I can tell.. its not "Generating" squat.. its searching a pile of pre-generated images, as I have repeatedly seen the same images over and over again.

But the fact its not even CLOSE is why its 100% useless.

I typed in "Hyper intelligent space rats that conquer their foes through advanced technology."

This is what the AI vomits onto my screen...


https://ibb.co/0fQnW3t


NOT ONE SINGLE RAT, MOUSE, MARSUPIAL, POSSUM, HAMSTER.. )#$*ING ANYTHING even CLOSE to a rat. There's friggen ROBOT DUDES and HAIRY OLD MEN AN CATS FFS!!!
Last edited by nazgull2k1; Dec 20, 2023 @ 3:50pm
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Supply Side Jesus Dec 20, 2023 @ 4:48pm 
Personally, I would rather devs spend time on improving core game than this side-show.
DarkFire Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:35pm 
I think it is pretty cool given the right wording prompts.
Frogboy  [developer] Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:39pm 
What did the text say?
nazgull2k1 Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by DarkFire:
I think it is pretty cool given the right wording prompts.


Space rats just not "right" enough? What would be "the right wording prompt" then?

Stop white knighting, you sound ridiculous.
nazgull2k1 Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by Frogboy:
What did the text say?

read the post.
xandini Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by nazgull2k1:
Originally posted by Frogboy:
What did the text say?

read the post.
There is no text in the screenshot. The AI is supposed to write a text.
Frogboy  [developer] Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
The main feature of AlienGPT is the on-the-fly generative TEXT it creates after you send in your description. It not only generates your background lore, civ description, etc. but also the diplomatic and trade responses other Civs have when you encounter them.

Similarly, when you play against them, their dialogs with you are also unique. The civ it generates is unique and no two are the same.

The image, by contrast, while pretty, is just the best fit it can find based on previously generated images that get queues up. It just means few people have asked for space rats for whatever reason.

That said, it should be noted that at least 2 of the choices are, in fact, space rats.
Last edited by Frogboy; Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:07pm
Airmaster Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by nazgull2k1:
Originally posted by DarkFire:
I think it is pretty cool given the right wording prompts.


Space rats just not "right" enough? What would be "the right wording prompt" then?

Stop white knighting, you sound ridiculous.

He wasn't white knighting, he was actually telling you how to use it. Keep your phrasing short and sweet when describing what your race should be.

"Hyper intelligent space rats that conquer their foes through advanced technology" is way to long and you should have shorten it to just, "Advanced technological intelligent space rats or rodents."

"Hyper intelligent space rats that conquer their foes through advanced technology." actually sounded ridiculous.

This is what generated when I used my description wording as mentioned above:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3119019899

I see a mouse, a rat. a hamster, and Hot Damn there is even a guinea pig!
Last edited by Airmaster; Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:54pm
pete Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by nazgull2k1:
So yeah.. can we just all admit now that this whole "AI" thing is about as useful to this game as a 2nd scrotum? Its never once worked for anything Ive ever put in it.

Insofar as I can tell.. its not "Generating" squat.. its searching a pile of pre-generated images, as I have repeatedly seen the same images over and over again.

But the fact its not even CLOSE is why its 100% useless.

I typed in "Hyper intelligent space rats that conquer their foes through advanced technology."

This is what the AI vomits onto my screen...


https://ibb.co/0fQnW3t


NOT ONE SINGLE RAT, MOUSE, MARSUPIAL, POSSUM, HAMSTER.. )#$*ING ANYTHING even CLOSE to a rat. There's friggen ROBOT DUDES and HAIRY OLD MEN AN CATS FFS!!!
Here's a free tip - don't use it
Nitro Dec 21, 2023 @ 4:39am 
"as useful to this game as a 2nd scrotum" Sir, you just offended my alien race, the Ballsac's. Good day to you, sir!
nazgull2k1 Dec 21, 2023 @ 6:15am 
Originally posted by Nitro:
"as useful to this game as a 2nd scrotum" Sir, you just offended my alien race, the Ballsac's. Good day to you, sir!

The ballchinnyens from MIB2 were also offended... lol
ashbery76 Dec 21, 2023 @ 6:20am 
Why bother when you have such great animated base factions.
Nitro Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by nazgull2k1:
Originally posted by Nitro:
"as useful to this game as a 2nd scrotum" Sir, you just offended my alien race, the Ballsac's. Good day to you, sir!

The ballchinnyens from MIB2 were also offended... lol

Emperor Harry Ballsac and his lovely Empress, Fromunda Ballsac, are livid. Armada mobilization is now commencing to address this affront. No stopping until your home world is reduced to a 'penal' colony. ;)
TargetLost Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:47am 
try krea.ai

I got some useable pictures using "Hyper intelligent space rats that conquer their foes through advanced technology."

simple delete those 2 default objects on the left side.
Gaslov Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:04am 
I think it's pretty neat, but why so much anger about a completely optional part of the game? It's a much more advanced civilization builder than I've seen in other games. Am I sad that there wasn't a fluffy space dragon picture for my 9 year old daughter's faction? Sure. But there are still a lot of portraits to choose from.
Last edited by Gaslov; Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:06am
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