Really disappointed

[drunk cig]

JSR is my favorite game. JSRF idgaf about but it's still not bad imo.

BRCF doesn't have the same child-like charm of the OGs and I miss it a lot. I don't like how aggro the characters are. The tone is a major miss for me. The more "adult" aspects aren't pulled off well enough to justify them. It's a misguided attempt to be cool I guess? Maybe I'm the loser for not liking it. They copied more from JSRF than JSR I guess.

The music also kinda sucks. The first two songs you have to listen to on repeat are "ass ass ass ass" and "operate op- operate" ad nauseum. I've listened to the ost and I like most of it...but the lyrics are pretty much...not good. The repetition is just painful. IDK how this slipped through the cracks but it's way worse than anything JSR had.

If there was nothing else to play this season, if this had come out a few months ago and let me ban songs, I would probably keep playing it.

Just bummed they missed on things that mattered a lot to me. I hope people enjoying this go back to the old ones, especially JSR.

TLDR I'm returning it and playing JSR again.

[it's a gabe]

Sigh. I'm genuinely looking forward to when people stop saying they're disappointed at BRC because it isn't JSR3. Let's save that energy for when the new JSR comes out and doesn't live up to everyone's expectations.

[All★Star Apologist]

imagine not liking precious thing

[Tactical Turtle Neck]

this is like playing virtua figther or dead or alive and complaining about it not being like tekken.

[drunk cig]

Thx for the replies. I want to say that it is not nostalgia for me. I love JSR. I just replayed it and I feel the same way. JSRF is not an improvement on JSR imo, it's just a new game with different mechanics...which I happen to like less than the original.

I really like the gameplay and art of BRCF (because I like JSR) but there are too many caveats from what made the OGs so special that I can't get into BR.

To me it's like the original Resident Evil 3 vs the remake. The OG is clunky and stupid and that's what makes it special. The new one loses the magic.

[Mateusinho]

The problem here, is you comparing BRC directly to JSR in the first place. The RE3 vs RE3 remake comparison makes that clear. This is not a "JSR remake".

Sure, it is meant to carry it's spirit in some form, specially in the gameplay and aesthetics, but it stops there, it is it's own game and it has it's own identity in the first place, and the devs have made that clear from the start.

The only people that can make JSR3 is Sega themselves. BRC is it's own thing, and it's a gem. The only thing that brought me a similar amount of joy and fun this year is Hi-Fi Rush. It has it's OWN magic.

Seriously, try to look at it as it's own thing for a second, and you may appreciate it as well. It has a lot of love and thought put into it, and it's a great experience, even though it may not be what you set up your expectations to be.

[Roll]

Originally posted by fuzz:

Thx for the replies. I want to say that it is not nostalgia for me. I love JSR. I just replayed it and I feel the same way. JSRF is not an improvement on JSR imo, it's just a new game with different mechanics...which I happen to like less than the original.

I really like the gameplay and art of BRCF (because I like JSR) but there are too many caveats from what made the OGs so special that I can't get into BR.

To me it's like the original Resident Evil 3 vs the remake. The OG is clunky and stupid and that's what makes it special. The new one loses the magic.

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[oJammy]

It's meant to be a spiritual successor to JSRF specifically so no wonder you don't like it

[Super Isaak Singe]

jsrf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jsr

[Sayie]

I also prefer JSR but that's on you for not liking this game. It's still really good and does a lot of stuff similar but it's not a sequel and you'll most likely never get a game like JSR again.

[bluemarine]

looool bruh gave me a clown emoji for telling the objective truth

[DescipleOfZen]

I too am on the JGR over JSRF side of things. Both of them have some downsides, even more so if you play JGR's PC version, but in the end, I find the original aged way better in terms of gameplay and overall presentation.

I don't like how JSRF feels, it's clunkier than the original and has honestly aged like milk. JSRF is also a reboot of the GGs, which I loathe. (Screw Future Yo-Yo and Clutch is a terrible character, too) -- It's incredibly stupid how you start the game off as Yo-Yo and have to recruit beat, yet Beat is on the box art for all regions, front and center, without a lick of Yo-Yo outside the manual.

The trick system was never a focus in the original, but feels blatantly shoe-horned in to JSRF once you find a challenge tape, especially since the RAILS dictate your multiplier, not the tricks; Literally just find the x500 rail and spam it for X amount of time, where as in the original, you actually had to traverse the stage and find an infinite grind on your own.

By fat the biggest offender for me though would be the graffiti, holding down a button to spray is just excruciatingly boring, where as in the original, you had to actually plan your routes within a time limit, avoid cops and beat the clock.

The original was arcade bliss and outsmarting the cops was fun. Future has their weird forced combat sections, like BRC, but much worse considering you actually have to find paint. They also just pop up out of nowhere like a Poke`mon, where as BRC has the courtesy to prepare you.

I will say in JSRF's case, it does have a lot of interesting locations like Sky Dinosaurian Square and 99th street's back alleys, but the controls really ruin it for me. The music is (mostly) decent, but I much prefer the original soundtrack and feel of the game. The story is pretty funny too, the DJ K segments, but again, I'm more about the gameplay, and it just doesn't hit it home.

Admittedly, a lot of gamers now simply cannot handle arcade experiences, so I can see why JSRF would be more appealing. Aside from a few missions, you pretty much just go at your own pace and explore, but I love arcade-y score based games, and JGR hits that adrenaline for me.

I do really appreciate that JSRF had split-screen game modes, which is something I really wanted when the original dropped. We did eventually get it on the Gameboy Advance version of JGR, which IMO is pretty solid as well, but still, it's nice future has it.

I recently beat Future again, about 5 days ago before typing this. I hasn't aged well in my opinion; I give it a 6/10. I play the original about twice a year, I give it an 8.5/10.

Just for fun, I give GBA 7/10... I'd give it a 7.5 but the last Golden Rhino stage grinds my gears, and there's also the rail crash on Kogane. You can also play as Professor K!

EDIT: I also want to say that I love BRC. No, it's not arcade-y and no, it doesn't have any split-screen modes, but in terms of gameplay, It surpasses JSRF. I love doing combos in this game, and the story was well done, not to mention spraying graffiti IS ACTUALLY FUN *cough*.

It's clear SEGA feels the same way too, seeing as every cameo, official and in other games, except one, are JGR instead of future.

[chuckkilly]

I'm replying cause it feels like you're getting dogpilied on here

I agree with you that Jet Set Radio is still a great game and I prefer it over Future as well, but I enjoy fast paced arcade style games with failure scenarios and a learning curve

I think that most people nowadays enjoy "interactive experiences" instead of games that might make you have to repeat a level over and over until you beat them

That's my big disappointment with JSRF and even more so with Bomb Rush Cyberpunk, it is completely devoid of any challenge and is more just about exploring the environments and watching the story

At first I found the graffiti system cool but then I realized you can't fail, you can literally just flick the stick around randomly and complete a piece, and even if you could fail it wouldn't matter because you never run out of spray.

I think there are a lot of cool ideas in this game and I appreciate the art style but just that is not enough keep me interested. I think this could be easily remedied by adding some new modes or expanding on the challenges that gaing members on map give you.

For instance, instead of just freely tagging to increase your rep maybe they can add urgency to with a time limit to complete some tags in an enclosed area just like the original Jet Set Radio. There could even be an option to turn the time limits off for people who prefer the slower pace.

It would also be nice if they added some sort of penalty for not pushing the stick in the right direction during tagging, like you have to restart from the beginning or it knocks a little off your timer. Again this could be a toggleable option.

I've only beaten the second gang in the game so far, so I don't know if this is already in there, but races like in JSRF would be great here too

[Cosmic_Heartz]

while i kinda get what you're saying i think the issues are how heavily you're comparing it to jsr/jsrf plus general personal taste. while BRC is technically in some ways a spiritual successor to the jet set series it's also its own thing.
i understand that maybe the story aspect isn't for everyone but i personally enjoy the story aspect which JSR/JSRF lacked ( JSR moreseo as JSRF does have some story elements ) i do have some slight gripes with how the story was handled at the end though and if team reptile ever changes their minds abt non cosmetic dlcs i would enjoy a postgame dlc. ( also to that one person who was saying the BRC characters act too serious for a gang of teens; I don't think any of the characters with the exception of maybe Fresh Prince and Jay are teens. they all read as like young adults so that is probably a factor in them being more serious/mature than the jsr characters )

so all in all i think its a case of you having expectations for the game basically being a third jsr and was disappointed when it wasn't

hope i didn't come off as like rude or condescending im just giving my personal opinions

[HelgenX]

I honestly think this game is boring as it stands. I'd much rather play JSRF over this. I can't exactly pinpoint it, but this just feels like a beta version of a clone thus far. I'm sad to have to say this because I've been hyping this game since it was announced, and many of my friends play it who also played the JSR games, and none of them talk about it anymore, or even play it anymore, neither do I. As for the music choices, very soundcloud. I like some of them, but I still till this day listen to a lot of the JSR and JSRF songs and I don't think I can vibe on the long run to most of these tracks. I do love that Dom McLennon one and maybe Watchyaback, but the others are really so amateur and repetitive.

[ONE MILLION EXPLODING SUNS]

What a bum ass post. Its not Jet Set Radio, its literally in the name. Its an entirely separate game Sega had nothing to do with by a totally different studio. Missing " that childlike charm" is probably cause its been 20 years since Jet Set? Which you probably played as a brat??

And I hate to break it to ya chief; JSR aged like milk gameplay wise. But continue to have at it ig
Jet Set also has obnoxiously repetitive tracks too? Let Mom Sleep? Sneakman? Fly like a Butterfly?? Soul Brother?? I love love you???

Its plunderphonics. Nostalgia selection bias making you think its totally different

I grew up on Jet Set too and BRC fleshes out and advances a lot of concepts and mechanics it started the ground work for

All I see in this is post is "I can't believe this isn't Jet Set :((((" , miss out on a dope game then cuz, thats on you

Also Operator ♥♥♥♥♥♥ slaps, you tweakin