Do not buy this game, if you love Team Ninja

[Treasure Chest]

If you love Team Ninja and their games, do not buy this game.

Why?

Rise of the Ronin was made as the new flagship IP for the company and was supposed to be the new standard for the future of Team Ninja games, it had massive funding and the sales were expected to be 5m+ copies sold on PS5 alone. Team Ninja betrayed their core audience and went for the casual market, made the game open-world and added super easy and easy difficulty modes to appeal to casuals. What happened? In the launch week Rise of the Ronin was one of their fastest selling games, but in the long run it had no legs and sold worse than Nioh 1.

If this game was a success, it would have ruined and killed Team Ninja for good. Thank God it was a massive failure. Don't forget that Team Ninja has a tendency to try and sellout (Remember original Ninja Gaiden 3 which was an interactive movie and almost killed the franchise?), but so far, every time they have tried that, the games were failures.

If you love NINJA GAIDEN and NIOH, do not buy this game, this game was supposed to destroy that which you love. It is very important that this game continues to be a financial failure, so that future Team Ninja games remain of high quality and aren't boring open-world garbage with casualized difficulty settings.

Even Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is far superior to this boring open-world slop!

Go buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Ninja Gaiden 4 or Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty instead, and in the future Nioh 3.

[yakan]

yea. go buy venus vacation prism instead.

[SDriver]

Originally posted by yakan:

yea. go buy venus vacation prism instead.

BASED.

Not all regions sadly.

[Senki]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by Senki:

Ninja gaiden 2 black is old clunky slop carried by nostalgia and pretty graphics

I'll gladly enjoy this game instead

I'm not a fanboy of any company, if they stop making games that I am interested in then I will simply move on to the other companies that will take their place.

As far as this game is concerned it just looks like a better Wo Long combat-wise. I loved Wo Long so I'm getting this as well.

Yeah this is heresy.
NG is still faster than nearly 90% of action games nowadays, and especially against any games that carry the Souls dodge/parry gene.

faster doesn't mean smooth

the camera and how the auto targeting works alone makes NG clunkier than most newer action games

if you add the jank movement to the mix as well then it's not even a discussion

[CLG]

So what are there any legitimate complaints about this game? I love the setting of the Boshin war and there's barely any games that do it. I've been on pretty much entire media blackout on this game since it got announced on the ps5 since I've been waiting for the port.

[hwaitinghoshino]

Originally posted by CLG:

So what are there any legitimate complaints about this game? I love the setting of the Boshin war and there's barely any games that do it. I've been on pretty much entire media blackout on this game since it got announced on the ps5 since I've been waiting for the port.

Mainly the novelty of the open world design, as well as visual fidelity not being what one would normally expect of a PS5 Exclusive title when the game first launched.

Which is why KT is pushing for improvements in the Katana Engine used in future titles such as Dynasty Warriors Origins and DOA Prism.

Source: Koei Tecmo Financial Results for the Fiscal Year Ending March 2024
https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ir3_20240430_e.pdf

[Leo Major]

I stuck my finger deep up my nose and a booger stuck to it and it was stringy and snotty and i put it in my mouth and ate it.

That's what reading this post was like

[cacromwell3113]

Originally posted by hwaitinghoshino:

Originally posted by CLG:

So what are there any legitimate complaints about this game? I love the setting of the Boshin war and there's barely any games that do it. I've been on pretty much entire media blackout on this game since it got announced on the ps5 since I've been waiting for the port.

Mainly the novelty of the open world design, as well as visual fidelity not being what one would normally expect of a PS5 Exclusive title when the game first launched.

Which is why KT is pushing for improvements in the Katana Engine used in future titles such as Dynasty Warriors Origins and DOA Prism.

Source: Koei Tecmo Financial Results for the Fiscal Year Ending March 2024
https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ir3_20240430_e.pdf

Did Prism use the Katana engine or did they upgrade the Softy Engine?

[hwaitinghoshino]

Originally posted by cacromwell3113:

Originally posted by hwaitinghoshino:

Mainly the novelty of the open world design, as well as visual fidelity not being what one would normally expect of a PS5 Exclusive title when the game first launched.

Which is why KT is pushing for improvements in the Katana Engine used in future titles such as Dynasty Warriors Origins and DOA Prism.

Source: Koei Tecmo Financial Results for the Fiscal Year Ending March 2024
https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ir3_20240430_e.pdf

Did Prism use the Katana engine or did they upgrade the Softy Engine?

Prism is confirmed to use Katana Engine.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/venus-vacation-prism-switches-to-wo-long-fallen-dynastys-game-engine-for-extra-wetness-and-steamy-breaths/

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Yeah this is heresy.
NG is still faster than nearly 90% of action games nowadays, and especially against any games that carry the Souls dodge/parry gene.

faster doesn't mean smooth

the camera and how the auto targeting works alone makes NG clunkier than most newer action games

if you add the jank movement to the mix as well then it's not even a discussion

The only thing old about NG is the camera, which is still set piece. But this is an acquired taste, you can get used to it.

And jank movement? Hell naw, man.
I find all the modern Souls-ish games and action games not as fast and technical as NG.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by CLG:

So what are there any legitimate complaints about this game? I love the setting of the Boshin war and there's barely any games that do it. I've been on pretty much entire media blackout on this game since it got announced on the ps5 since I've been waiting for the port.

It's really the performance and how it looks on PS5.
And some of the older designs Ubisoft-ish tower exploration design (I actually love this though).

The game is sick ass action RPG with gore and weapons/style variety, one of the best action games in 2024.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by hwaitinghoshino:

Originally posted by cacromwell3113:

Did Prism use the Katana engine or did they upgrade the Softy Engine?

Prism is confirmed to use Katana Engine.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/venus-vacation-prism-switches-to-wo-long-fallen-dynastys-game-engine-for-extra-wetness-and-steamy-breaths/

Based.

[Dax_B]

Ew, gatekeepers and their silly ways. Anyway, how cool is it that it's coming to PC? Just put in my pre-order!

[hwaitinghoshino]

Originally posted by Dax_B:

Ew, gatekeepers and their silly ways. Anyway, how cool is it that it's coming to PC? Just put in my pre-order!

High five!

[CorvusJB]

I disagree, but thanks for your opinion. I'll buy the game. I've been looking forward to it since it was released on PS.

[Shadowlet]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by Senki:

faster doesn't mean smooth

the camera and how the auto targeting works alone makes NG clunkier than most newer action games

if you add the jank movement to the mix as well then it's not even a discussion

The only thing old about NG is the camera, which is still set piece. But this is an acquired taste, you can get used to it.

And jank movement? Hell naw, man.
I find all the modern Souls-ish games and action games not as fast and technical as NG.

NG movement is jank when jumping has more precise control than trying to steer your character that rotates on a deadzone too large