Against the Storm

Against the Storm

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Some feedback, game is not fun
Being a mixture of genres it's either hit or miss and it's a miss for me.

First of all, it really feels like northgard for me but it does things wrong with buildings being too being, having to wait for woodcutter to expand your land and the overload of information.

it's hard to balance the 3 factions with all the resources and your workers suddenly die, there is not enough info about whats going on, the UI size is too small.

I think you should redesign the game with Northgard in mind(i am sure you know the game) because you have very little control on what's going on and you need to dedicate a large number of workers to the starter buildings.

A first step would be to reduce the number of workers you need so it's easier to control the game.
It's also based on a lot of randomised resources as rewards so it's RNG, that should be looked at again.

Overall, it's not a fun experience because you have to make woodcutters to expand and complete quests but you also need to build(can you prioritise the building queue?) a lot and you don't have space.

The game has potential but it looks like the game is only hard because it's hard to control the game and it's not as complex as i would have imagined it.

Sorry for mentioning that other game:P
Eredetileg közzétette: Leisurely Luke:
Hey everyone!

KoV eredeti hozzászólása:
Game is good and being worked on so might become even better
On discord they are spouting a ton of good idea's just wait to see what actually gets implemented
Thanks for the kind words, I'm really glad that you enjoy Against the Storm. We made hundreds of changes since 2020 when this thread was posted and I'm happy to see that the reception changed much since then. Back then it was only a demo made in less than a year, all after-hours. It had hardly any content or mechanics it has now.

I will close this topic soon but I encourage everyone to share your impressions and feedback in new threads. We're eager to hear your ideas and suggestions based on the current version of the game.

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
i like the new ideas, mechanics and other cool stuff but i can't help but be dissapointed its still in early access after being an epic exclusive:(
I 100% understand that it's difficult or even annoying to wait for Early Access games to be fully released.

We decided to extend our time in Early Access beyond our initial plans because we really enjoyed working with the community so far. We have the capacity to continue updating the game with new content, mechanics, and improvements

We didn't rest on our laurels for the past 12 months. We delivered 27 bi-weekly content updates (without a single delay) in which we included a total of 2300+ improvements, 57% of which were directly inspired by community feedback. I believe it was a mutually beneficial process for both us and players and we're excited to work with new community members now that we entered Steam.

Also, we tried to make the Early Access programme as convenient for the players as possible, so your meta progress won't ever be erased by us when updates go live or the game leaves Early Access.

I hope you'll have fun with the game, whenever you decide to pick it up :)
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Eremite Games  [Fejlesztő] 2020. szept. 21., 13:49 
Thank you for your honest feedback!
Obviously we want to hear what should be improved, so we appreciate that.

We know Northgard - it's a great game and I totally need to try the brand new DLC. It's one of the game's we're inspired by, so it's flattering you mentioned it.

We are aware that there's a lot of balance issues and features missing. Although it's called the demo, it's a pre-alpha build, meaning you can expect a lot of changes in the future. Our aim was to get a lot of feedback from the demo (and I got to admit the community really surprised us with tons of messages) and to balance the game and iron out issues based on the reports we received.

So even if you didn't enjoy it that much yet, I still believe you should give it another try in the future and see what chaged.

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
the UI size is too small.
There was a UI slider in the Settings. You can check how it works in one of our Reddit posts. Would you use it if you knew it exists?

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
It's also based on a lot of randomised resources as rewards so it's RNG, that should be looked at again.
Against the Storm is a roguelite city builder and randomized resources are there to support the roguelite part (especially the diversity of experience). We want each playthrough to feel different and encourage you to experiment with different strategies.

Once again thanks for your feedback! There's a long way ahead of us and the game will change a lot. I hope to see you around and hear from you in the future :)

Take care!
eremitegames eredeti hozzászólása:
Thank you for your honest feedback!
Obviously we want to hear what should be improved, so we appreciate that.

We know Northgard - it's a great game and I totally need to try the brand new DLC. It's one of the game's we're inspired by, so it's flattering you mentioned it.

We are aware that there's a lot of balance issues and features missing. Although it's called the demo, it's a pre-alpha build, meaning you can expect a lot of changes in the future. Our aim was to get a lot of feedback from the demo (and I got to admit the community really surprised us with tons of messages) and to balance the game and iron out issues based on the reports we received.

So even if you didn't enjoy it that much yet, I still believe you should give it another try in the future and see what chaged.

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
the UI size is too small.
There was a UI slider in the Settings. You can check how it works in one of our Reddit posts. Would you use it if you knew it exists?

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
It's also based on a lot of randomised resources as rewards so it's RNG, that should be looked at again.
Against the Storm is a roguelite city builder and randomized resources are there to support the roguelite part (especially the diversity of experience). We want each playthrough to feel different and encourage you to experiment with different strategies.

Once again thanks for your feedback! There's a long way ahead of us and the game will change a lot. I hope to see you around and hear from you in the future :)

Take care!

Northgard is not a bad game, but it's quite boring after beating it once.

A better game to take inspiration from would be warcraft 3 or spellforce, where you have rpg and rts elements.

You could have hero units with item, that could go on adventures aka rogue lite stuff, and have a central hub as your main base and a world map where you could conquer other provinces in the same way as dawn of war soulstorm or warlords battlecry 3.
Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
stuff

Wow you and I are quite different. I found Northgard abysmally boring. If this game went that direction I'd shelve it for good.
makes sense game isnt fun, since they had to make excl. deal to make sure they got paid.
Leisurely Luke  [Fejlesztő] 2022. júl. 20., 10:59 
Baldr eredeti hozzászólása:
makes sense game isnt fun, since they had to make excl. deal to make sure they got paid.

Hey!
To be fair, it's been almost 2 years since the OP posted their opinion. Since then, the game changed A LOT, especially based on the community feedback. We released 20 content updates (they're listed on the roadmap[eremitegames.com]) and plan to deliver several more over the next months.

Here's a recent video of how the game looks like and plays now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2XYy2TZBO0
I didn't play years ago, but started recently. I am LOVING the game. I would not put much stock into complaints from 2020-21.
Game is good and being worked on so might become even better
On discord they are spouting a ton of good idea's just wait to see what actually gets implemented
i like the new ideas, mechanics and other cool stuff but i can't help but be dissapointed its still in early access after being an epic exclusive:(
Az alkalmazás egyik fejlesztője jelezte, hogy ez a hozzászólás megválaszolja a témát.
Hey everyone!

KoV eredeti hozzászólása:
Game is good and being worked on so might become even better
On discord they are spouting a ton of good idea's just wait to see what actually gets implemented
Thanks for the kind words, I'm really glad that you enjoy Against the Storm. We made hundreds of changes since 2020 when this thread was posted and I'm happy to see that the reception changed much since then. Back then it was only a demo made in less than a year, all after-hours. It had hardly any content or mechanics it has now.

I will close this topic soon but I encourage everyone to share your impressions and feedback in new threads. We're eager to hear your ideas and suggestions based on the current version of the game.

Neyreyan_Youtube eredeti hozzászólása:
i like the new ideas, mechanics and other cool stuff but i can't help but be dissapointed its still in early access after being an epic exclusive:(
I 100% understand that it's difficult or even annoying to wait for Early Access games to be fully released.

We decided to extend our time in Early Access beyond our initial plans because we really enjoyed working with the community so far. We have the capacity to continue updating the game with new content, mechanics, and improvements

We didn't rest on our laurels for the past 12 months. We delivered 27 bi-weekly content updates (without a single delay) in which we included a total of 2300+ improvements, 57% of which were directly inspired by community feedback. I believe it was a mutually beneficial process for both us and players and we're excited to work with new community members now that we entered Steam.

Also, we tried to make the Early Access programme as convenient for the players as possible, so your meta progress won't ever be erased by us when updates go live or the game leaves Early Access.

I hope you'll have fun with the game, whenever you decide to pick it up :)
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