Against the Storm

Against the Storm

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Those new abandoned settlements....
How are they generated ? Is it all random, or are there a bunch of pre designed ones ?
The one i have now seem pretty brutal. (still trying to figure out a plan at the moment). No fuel, 157% blight mid storm, and either no woodcutting (and thus still no fuel) or hostility level 3 with -2 resolve each minute.

How about starting resources from the caravan ?
I embarked like usual with amber, some food, stones and people. But i did not look into the "box" of basic starting stuff at the caravans. I now have the people, bricks and amber i selected, but zero fuel. Was it not in that box ? What would have happened if i had manually selected fuel for embark, would i have lost that too ?
Last edited by arjensmit79; Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:16pm
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The Cornerstones are also random, so there might one causing problems with fuel supply; the first one I got was actually fairly easy, with the only flaw I could being expanding into too many glades too fast, to the point where while the win was faster than usual it also didn't involve clearing much space out like I usually prefer. :p
el Darkness Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:26pm 
Did you chose easier version of the event? Or harder version with better rewards?
vindicar Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:28pm 
Wait, so those are not just "more ruins in the starting glade", but actual "please fix my game, here's the save" settlements? D'oh. Thanks for the headsup.
arjensmit79 Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by el Darkness:
Did you chose easier version of the event? Or harder version with better rewards?

I of course brazenly chose the harder one on P20 with half an unlocked citadel :)
arjensmit79 Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by vindicar:
Wait, so those are not just "more ruins in the starting glade", but actual "please fix my game, here's the save" settlements? D'oh. Thanks for the headsup.

I think these now both exist. I don't know if this new thing also exists as a map modifier, i got it as a world event.
Last edited by arjensmit79; Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:30pm
vindicar Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
I think these now both exist. I don't know if this new thing also exists as a map modifier, i got it as a world event.
yeah, I was talking about the new thing.
el Darkness Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
I of course brazenly chose the harder one on P20 with half an unlocked citadel :)
Awesome :)
arjensmit79 Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by vindicar:
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
I think these now both exist. I don't know if this new thing also exists as a map modifier, i got it as a world event.
yeah, I was talking about the new thing.

yes those are indeed "please fix my settlement".
mostly willing Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
How are they generated ? Is it all random, or are there a bunch of pre designed ones ?
https://youtu.be/qaK2FWQB7DE?si=PvZ1oGlzCLtBzcW_&t=2583
Aron answered that during the 1.5 preview stream
arjensmit79 Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by mostly willing:
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
How are they generated ? Is it all random, or are there a bunch of pre designed ones ?
https://youtu.be/qaK2FWQB7DE?si=PvZ1oGlzCLtBzcW_&t=2583
Aron answered that during the 1.5 preview stream
Good job making me watch the whole thing ;)
Should have done that before i guess, will do now.
mostly willing Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:53pm 
did the time stamp not work? the explanation starts at the 43 minute mark
arjensmit79 Dec 1, 2024 @ 3:05pm 
No it started at the beginning, but it was a good watch while playing :)
TowerWizard Dec 2, 2024 @ 1:33am 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
Originally posted by vindicar:
yeah, I was talking about the new thing.

yes those are indeed "please fix my settlement".

Are you not answering your own question here? Are these actual player saves, or just pregenerad ones within certain parameters, or just completely random?

If they are fixed at year 6 but started at year 4, how many years will pass on the world map`?
arjensmit79 Dec 2, 2024 @ 4:13am 
Ah all that is covered in the link mostly willing posted.

They are semi-procedurally generated. Meaning they have a few templates with some random variables in them. They are not actual player saves.

They start at year 3. The times starts then. I finishes it in year 6 and it counted 3 years on the world map. If you'd finish it in year 5, it still counts 3 years because that is always the default minimum for every settlement.

I don't know all the variables for starting resources. But from this first experience i learned:
-If you play P20, you must embark with amber because you'll be made to pay for every glade that is already opened.
-Its probably a very good idea to embark with fuel as you may start with none, it would enable you to produce blightfire and to keep the hearth burning without needing to add hostility from woodcutters.
-I don't know if there is also a chance to start with zero food, but since food is always a good embark anyway, until we know for sure, i would always bring at least some.
-Its always a good idea to embark with stones as you have a load of chests to pick from in all the open glades and the ability to do so right at the start instead of gather the stones first provides a lot of versatility.
-You don't really need to embark with people because you have a good number already anyway.
Last edited by arjensmit79; Dec 2, 2024 @ 4:24am
TowerWizard Dec 2, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
If you play P20, you must embark with amber because you'll be made to pay for every glade that is already opened.

Wow, that is total BS by the developers. The forest obviously took payment from the past tenants, which is in part why that settlement failed. This seems like an oversight more than anything.

What about the Mystery about opening glades during the storm? If you have that, and the game starts in the storm, do you get the penalty for every opened glade? No? Then the rules are different as compared to the ember cost of glades at P20.

I'll watch the video later, but man, this triggered me.
Last edited by TowerWizard; Dec 2, 2024 @ 5:27am
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