Against the Storm

Against the Storm

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Wilderi Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:43am
Can't play on lower difficulty levels
I pushed to Prestige 4 on normal levels before I took a break and when I came back I tried to play the daily expedition. I chose the Viceroy option for difficulty, but when I started the game there's still 4 additional red modifiers (which if I remember correctly belongs to the Prestige 4 difficulty?). There's also the forsaken altar mechanic and I require 18 reputation points to win. I have restarted my first game because I thought I forgot to choose Viceroy, but when I did the second time it's still the same result.

Is this normal?
Last edited by Wilderi; Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:50am
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madzai Dec 16, 2023 @ 1:16am 
Did you reset your meta progression?

I returned after a year, i was like on P10 before, i think, i now i'm struggling even on Veteran. Like i'm not *losing*, unless i made a mistake myself, but my expeditions are a complete slog. I wasn't the fastest player before, but now it's really slow.

Aside from the obvious lack of unlocks, it feels like a ton of OP cornerstone is nerfed into oblivion or removed. Dilemmas in Glades also require more resources and some choices are removed. Oil feels almost mandatory.

New Rain system is questionable, It'e either slow for base building ot you need correct Geyser (and Geyser need people to operate) to power specific buildings. And you need pipes for it, while pipes are basically tools in terms of production.

Basically, previous system give you bonuses at cost of using additional POP to purge crysts (and some wood to produce fire). Now you need pipes (for both geysers and in building itself!), geysers, double the POPs (1 pop for firefighting and 1 pop for geyser), Yeah bonuses are obviously bigger, but it feels like something you need to constantly tweak manually to actually get profit out of it. IF you have correct geysers.
Wilderi Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by madzai:
Did you reset your meta progression?

I returned after a year, i was like on P10 before, i think, i now i'm struggling even on Veteran. Like i'm not *losing*, unless i made a mistake myself, but my expeditions are a complete slog. I wasn't the fastest player before, but now it's really slow.

Aside from the obvious lack of unlocks, it feels like a ton of OP cornerstone is nerfed into oblivion or removed. Dilemmas in Glades also require more resources and some choices are removed. Oil feels almost mandatory.

New Rain system is questionable, It'e either slow for base building ot you need correct Geyser (and Geyser need people to operate) to power specific buildings. And you need pipes for it, while pipes are basically tools in terms of production.

Basically, previous system give you bonuses at cost of using additional POP to purge crysts (and some wood to produce fire). Now you need pipes (for both geysers and in building itself!), geysers, double the POPs (1 pop for firefighting and 1 pop for geyser), Yeah bonuses are obviously bigger, but it feels like something you need to constantly tweak manually to actually get profit out of it. IF you have correct geysers.

I think my concern here is not the actual change in gameplay, but the fact that I chose a Viceroy difficulty in Daily Expeditions , but based on my memory (if it's correct) it gave me a Prestige 4 difficulty. I restarted the Daily Expedition twice to make sure that I chose Viceroy, but the result is the same.

To confirm my suspicions I started a new settlement in the normal game mode (aka the one you need to push for seals) and indeed, the Viceroy difficulty is different from the Prestige 4 difficulty.

So my question here is: Did they change it such that Daily Expeditions can only be completed at your highest level? AKA, if I have pushed to Prestige 4, I can only do Daily Expeditions at Prestige 4 and not any lower levels?
mostly willing Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:58am 
I know that training expeditions are bugged, though in a different way. could be related
Daily expedition force highest available difficulty for you. My DE always start at P20 even if I try to choose any other difficulty
Wilderi Dec 16, 2023 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by свалов семен:
Daily expedition force highest available difficulty for you. My DE always start at P20 even if I try to choose any other difficulty

Ah I see, thank you for the clarification!
el Darkness Dec 16, 2023 @ 8:19am 
That kinda sucks, it should be possible to change difficulty.
Leisurely Luke  [developer] Dec 25, 2023 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by свалов семен:
Daily expedition force highest available difficulty for you. My DE always start at P20 even if I try to choose any other difficulty
Hmm, this is weird. You should be able to choose any unlocked difficulty in the Daily Expeditions. I just checked it and everything works as intended for me. Despite having unlocked Prestige 20, I can still play Daily Expedition on Settler.

Can you please send us the screenshots of the Daily Expedition panel before embarking and then the settlement screen? We'll look into it and fix it if there's a bug there. Thank you!
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