Realistically, what is the point of forbidden glades? (balancing complaints)

[Kyresti]

I went looking because I wanted to see and got trashed by a stormbird. Extended storm and -double- 'darkness' debuffs with 6 hostility (literally -24 resolve on top of the standard storm?), just... yikes! And you just get that every single storm thereafter if you let the event lapse?

From a gameplay perspective, having that out there is like playing russian roulette with a map. Like, the only time I -can- handle that without losing a ton of people is either if I've got hostility dropping buffs galore, or after I've already won.

And if I'd been able to manage? One reputation point and an okay egg-delivery line. That's pocket change for the trouble.

Like, I'm just going to avoid these from now on because they're not worth the trouble. And if that's the takeaway, why are they even there? I feel like there's some balancing to be done here.

[Skaarphy]

That's my experience too. By the time you can expect to handle them, nothing they offer is worth the effort. Citadel resources would be the appropriate reward, I think, but so far I haven't seen any.

[Olleus]

Storm bird is the worse.

Lots of other forbidden glade events are only marginally harder than dangerous ones. And the rewards are (on average) substantially better. There's always a couple of crates to open for some quick reputation. Sometimes opening one also nets you some sweet order/timed order rewards. Also, they offer far more points than dangerous glades for the settlement score, which counts in the race against other factors.

But yeah, screw storm bird.

[lukeliu]

It is indeed a Russian roulette. Some rewards are extremely powerful, which can help you to get a 4th year victory even at high prestige, such as the rainpunk factory.

[Starseed]

Ive always avoided them for that very reason "early game" because I dont have the high level resources they ask for AND they have timers. Im asking for trouble! I accidentally opened one in game I just did so had to hold breath and hope trader had the items needed. I find the hidden glades biome, not sure which one its called, where they all look the same quite enjoyable. I dont know if they do something different with that particular biome but it seems more balanced and fair in that respect, but yeah, in general its best to avoid those dangerous ones early game. Near the end where I want a fast win where impatience is high and I need to move quick and to get it over with I will then open them because I will have plenty of simple tools etc.

[archelonian]

As others mentioned stormbird is probably the hardest forbidden event, but most of them aren't too bad. I actually like it this way as long as the brutal events are rare, knowing they exist keeps you on the edge when opening a forbidden glade. Without these types of events opening a forbidden glade doesn't feel too risky. The rewards for forbidden glades are not just the event rewards, the glades themselves have more and better nodes/buildings than dangerous glades.

The hidden glade biome (I think it was called something like cursed woodlands) can be very fun with the unknown risk. Recently opened a surprise stormbird (thankfully mid-late game) in this biome. Not sure if it is possible to get it as a first glade event (mine was 2-3 glades out from the the starting location), but that would be a devastating first glade.

[Lantantan]

Yeah storm bird is absolutely brutal.

[Lucky_Star_Fan]

I only open them late game when I have high resolve or early-mid game if it's the swamp and they can spawn meganodes. A lot of forbidden events are pretty easy, but some are much harder. Could maybe use a re-balance.

[Lantantan]

My very first forbidden glade was the thunder bird. But beside that one instant loss event, it turns out nearly all of the forbidden events are pretty tame.

[Ghostlight]

The point? No idea. Never touch them. Why would I?

[Lantantan]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

The point? No idea. Never touch them. Why would I?

Much better resource to hostility ratio.

[HeathenSW]

They are amazing in mushroom biome tho. Proto shroom/wheat/huge-chunk-of-meat-I-can't-recall-the-name-of ftw! Just build 3 according gathering camps around it and you are swimming in resources.

Jokes aside there is really not that much of a negative difference between them and dangerous ones, apart for stormbird. I was terrified of a mole once, but it was completely within my ability to defuse. In my 77 hours I met stormbird exactly once (it killed that city, yeah), so it's not that frequent of an event.

[schnappkatze]

What does the stormbird actually do? I tried to google it but got no results.

[HeathenSW]

Originally posted by schnappkatze:

What does the stormbird actually do? I tried to google it but got no results.

Behold the God of the Forest.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2894649297
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2894649310
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2894649321

[Ghostlight]

Originally posted by Lantantan:

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

The point? No idea. Never touch them. Why would I?

Much better resource to hostility ratio.

Why risk it if the safer ratio is fine?

[Lantantan]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

Originally posted by Lantantan:

Much better resource to hostility ratio.

Why risk it if the safer ratio is fine?

Yeah, stick to dangerous glades instead, because of that 1 in 10 chance of thunder bird.