Smithing Text: Servant of the Gods - still in Viper's Sanctum?

[Orion Invictus]

Been at it for a while now, still nothing. Did they change the drop?

[Zanzilzar]

It should be, I got mine from there :) I'll just leave a link to a smithing text spreadsheet, should you not have a copy of it already :) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qJDHqLax2hC6jwuKOU70IKGTSnAh4_d9MuEoyhr6pYY/edit#gid=736502492

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Zanzilzar:

It should be, I got mine from there :) I'll just leave a link to a smithing text spreadsheet, should you not have a copy of it already :) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qJDHqLax2hC6jwuKOU70IKGTSnAh4_d9MuEoyhr6pYY/edit#gid=736502492

Is it a drop you only get after you exit the mission or something? Because I've been at it for what must be about 4 hours now, just constantly reloading from the nearest shrine to be more efficient, and still nothing.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Zanzilzar:

It should be, I got mine from there :) I'll just leave a link to a smithing text spreadsheet, should you not have a copy of it already :) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qJDHqLax2hC6jwuKOU70IKGTSnAh4_d9MuEoyhr6pYY/edit#gid=736502492

Is it a drop you only get after you exit the mission or something? Because I've been at it for what must be about 4 hours now, just constantly reloading from the nearest shrine to be more efficient, and still nothing.

some things I've learned from reading a bunch (so take it with a grain of salt):

1) if you have the ability, use a "luck" set, just stack as much luck as you can possibly stack when hunting for texts and such

2) if you don't get it within 5 attempts, go do another mission/go somewhere else do another activity (in game) to come back to that mission to I guess...refresh seeds or something (this also might've pertained to rolling attributes on a weapon, so I might be confusing that)

[kripcision]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Zanzilzar:

It should be, I got mine from there :) I'll just leave a link to a smithing text spreadsheet, should you not have a copy of it already :) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qJDHqLax2hC6jwuKOU70IKGTSnAh4_d9MuEoyhr6pYY/edit#gid=736502492

Is it a drop you only get after you exit the mission or something? Because I've been at it for what must be about 4 hours now, just constantly reloading from the nearest shrine to be more efficient, and still nothing.

its a matter of luck. both literally and with the in game stat "luck", the higher your luck the faster/easier it is to drop.

alternatively if you are impatient you can use a trainer to raise the drop rate to the max to get it after one try.

[Orion Invictus]

Thanks, everyone. As usual, once I "complained", I got it on my next try.

[JtDarth]

The servant of the gods smithing text ONLY drops form Yatsu-no-kami, according to both personal experience and the smithing text farming guide.

If you are early in the game still, just ignore it for now. If you are later in the game and collecting texts, you should use the available tools to not only boost luck, but set up your armor and accessories, via tempering, to increase your 'item drop rate'.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

The servant of the gods smithing text ONLY drops form Yatsu-no-kami, according to both personal experience and the smithing text farming guide.

If you are early in the game still, just ignore it for now. If you are later in the game and collecting texts, you should use the available tools to not only boost luck, but set up your armor and accessories, via tempering, to increase your 'item drop rate'.

I have no idea where I am in the game, but my level is roughly three times the recommended level for this mission. This is my favorite light set so far, which is why I was trying to get the texts. Soul matching was becoming too expensive for my taste.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

The servant of the gods smithing text ONLY drops form Yatsu-no-kami, according to both personal experience and the smithing text farming guide.

If you are early in the game still, just ignore it for now. If you are later in the game and collecting texts, you should use the available tools to not only boost luck, but set up your armor and accessories, via tempering, to increase your 'item drop rate'.

I have no idea where I am in the game, but my level is roughly three times the recommended level for this mission. This is my favorite light set so far, which is why I was trying to get the texts. Soul matching was becoming too expensive for my taste.

Three times the recommended level would put you at, what, level 50-60?

Yeah, that's still 'early game' from most perspectives. It gets FAR easier to farm texts later on, for a variety of reasons. FTR, finishing first playthrough it typically at lvl 120+, with the DLC being not uncommon to be lvl 160+ before finishing. But then you have the new game cycles that actually introduce new mechanics (and don't require you to replay the whole game), followed by underworld and depths. Pretty much anyone who goes through the final difficulty will end up within 100 levels of the cap of 750.

On a side note regarding 'servant of the gods' set bonuses: They are actually pretty poor, even by light armor standards. If I'm not mistaken it's the first light armor you can come across with an actual set bonus (aside from the sohaya garb). It is vastly outmoded in every way later on, and normal purple pickups will often be giving you far better bonuses than trying to grind out umbracite and mats for forging and tempering the set every couple of levels, let alone the obscene costs of soul-matching prior to divine tier.

To be blunt, your first playthrough, until you get to the DLC where you gain access to divine equipment quality tier (IE, finish the final story mission of the first playthrough), it's really expensive and time-consuming to try to use sets and soulmatching. You won't have access to the resources to do it without having to do a fairly notable amount of tedious grinding. Instead, pick up pieces as you go, and keep trading up when the defense stat goes up. Forging can still be useful, if you forge a new set of gear at the END of a region to act as a starter set for the next, but even there it would be recommended to avoid pieces that require rarer materiels.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

I have no idea where I am in the game, but my level is roughly three times the recommended level for this mission. This is my favorite light set so far, which is why I was trying to get the texts. Soul matching was becoming too expensive for my taste.

Three times the recommended level would put you at, what, level 50-60?

Yeah, that's still 'early game' from most perspectives. It gets FAR easier to farm texts later on, for a variety of reasons. FTR, finishing first playthrough it typically at lvl 120+, with the DLC being not uncommon to be lvl 160+ before finishing. But then you have the new game cycles that actually introduce new mechanics (and don't require you to replay the whole game), followed by underworld and depths. Pretty much anyone who goes through the final difficulty will end up within 100 levels of the cap of 750.

On a side note regarding 'servant of the gods' set bonuses: They are actually pretty poor, even by light armor standards. If I'm not mistaken it's the first light armor you can come across with an actual set bonus (aside from the sohaya garb). It is vastly outmoded in every way later on, and normal purple pickups will often be giving you far better bonuses than trying to grind out umbracite and mats for forging and tempering the set every couple of levels, let alone the obscene costs of soul-matching prior to divine tier.

To be blunt, your first playthrough, until you get to the DLC where you gain access to divine equipment quality tier (IE, finish the final story mission of the first playthrough), it's really expensive and time-consuming to try to use sets and soulmatching. You won't have access to the resources to do it without having to do a fairly notable amount of tedious grinding. Instead, pick up pieces as you go, and keep trading up when the defense stat goes up. Forging can still be useful, if you forge a new set of gear at the END of a region to act as a starter set for the next, but even there it would be recommended to avoid pieces that require rarer materiels.

I think I'm level 66 by now.

Thanks for the advice, but that's alright, I'm not looking to min-max my playthrough/gameplay. I just think the set is cool and want to continue using it until if and when I come across something I think is better.

[{5LINE}Cows with Guns]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

I think I'm level 66 by now.

Thanks for the advice, but that's alright, I'm not looking to min-max my playthrough/gameplay. I just think the set is cool and want to continue using it until if and when I come across something I think is better.

Just remember, if you like the look, refashion it - don't farm for it!

Advice: if its the health regen you want, look for medicine box and magatama and temper them for life on amrita gain later on (not too early on, maybe after level 100ish as the continuous temper rolls can be very expensive).
Life of on Amrita gain can also be tempered on any chest pieces.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by {5LINE}Cows with Guns:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

I think I'm level 66 by now.

Thanks for the advice, but that's alright, I'm not looking to min-max my playthrough/gameplay. I just think the set is cool and want to continue using it until if and when I come across something I think is better.

Just remember, if you like the look, refashion it - don't farm for it!

Advice: if its the health regen you want, look for medicine box and magatama and temper them for life on amrita gain later on (not too early on, maybe after level 100ish as the continuous temper rolls can be very expensive).
Life of on Amrita gain can also be tempered on any chest pieces.

The hp on purify is also pitifully weak later on. You'd have to stack it with specific guardian spirits as well as a specific clan bonus (+ an additional set bonus from late game) to really get usable healing out of it. At which point you are relying on REALLY conditional healing sources, as opposed to on Amrita, which is still conditional, but much easier to obtain, and can be easily scaled up even at endgame. Even at the end of NG with JUST the Toyotomi clan a single hit with the gaki soul core gives you like a third your HP back or more via life on amrita. Let alone wailing on targets who are out of ki or utilizing an extraction talisman.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by {5LINE}Cows with Guns:

Just remember, if you like the look, refashion it - don't farm for it!

Advice: if its the health regen you want, look for medicine box and magatama and temper them for life on amrita gain later on (not too early on, maybe after level 100ish as the continuous temper rolls can be very expensive).
Life of on Amrita gain can also be tempered on any chest pieces.

The hp on purify is also pitifully weak later on. You'd have to stack it with specific guardian spirits as well as a specific clan bonus (+ an additional set bonus from late game) to really get usable healing out of it. At which point you are relying on REALLY conditional healing sources, as opposed to on Amrita, which is still conditional, but much easier to obtain, and can be easily scaled up even at endgame. Even at the end of NG with JUST the Toyotomi clan a single hit with the gaki soul core gives you like a third your HP back or more via life on amrita. Let alone wailing on targets who are out of ki or utilizing an extraction talisman.

I know you're both just trying to help, but I don't want advice on how to play, which sets to use, etc. I just wanted to know if this smithing text still dropped at that location, and now I do. Thank you, regardless.

[Jouni]

Originally posted by Raven:

1) if you have the ability, use a "luck" set, just stack as much luck as you can possibly stack when hunting for texts and such

I don't think that Luck has any effect on smithing text drop rate. It probably only affects item drop's "Rarity" attribute but not what kind of item you get. For instance with high enough Luck you could get Exotic Legion Spear instead of Uncommon Legion Spear or High-Quality Ingot("Rare" rarity) instead of Quality Ingot("Uncommon" rarity).

[Raven]

Originally posted by Jouni:

Originally posted by Raven:

1) if you have the ability, use a "luck" set, just stack as much luck as you can possibly stack when hunting for texts and such

I don't think that Luck has any effect on smithing text drop rate. It probably only affects item drop's "Rarity" attribute but not what kind of item you get. For instance with high enough Luck you could get Exotic Legion Spear instead of Uncommon Legion Spear or High-Quality Ingot("Rare" rarity) instead of Quality Ingot("Uncommon" rarity).

I mean...I read several places that state otherwise...and a few youtube videos...

[Jouni]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Jouni:

I don't think that Luck has any effect on smithing text drop rate. It probably only affects item drop's "Rarity" attribute but not what kind of item you get. For instance with high enough Luck you could get Exotic Legion Spear instead of Uncommon Legion Spear or High-Quality Ingot("Rare" rarity) instead of Quality Ingot("Uncommon" rarity).

I mean...I read several places that state otherwise...and a few youtube videos...

Do they have some actual testing to back it up or are they just copying the info from another place that also doesn't have proof? It certainly wouldn't fit into Nioh's loot system. You can get all equipment drops from all enemies as long as you are far enough in the game. Not that you have 0.4% chance to get a specific item from a single specific enemy like in many other games. Smithing texts are a rare exception to the rule along with boss skills and special smithing materials(like Enki pelts).