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Yogi Nov 15, 2022 @ 5:59pm
should i make a fridge or just go to freezer?
freezer seems like the best choice
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DarkHorse Nov 15, 2022 @ 6:05pm 
At this time there really is no advantage to having a fridge over a freezer. And some frozen items ' Last Forever ' so ... freezer seems best choice.
TH3xR34P3R Nov 15, 2022 @ 9:24pm 
Pickled Veggies are the only thing that really needs to be put in at least fridge to keep it from spoiling. Buttermellons, Meats, Grain and Cooked Meals need the Freezer, everything else can be stored on a shelf.

I my current save I am in the process of working towards the two so I can set them up in my walk in food locker. I had a somewhat decently large food locker in another save but the AC units could not keep up with the heatwaves, I have a smaller one now so I can test if it keeps up when I get AC unlocked as its 9x11 atm.
DarkHorse Nov 15, 2022 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by TH3xR34P3R:
Pickled Veggies are the only thing that really needs to be put in at least fridge to keep it from spoiling. Buttermellons, Meats, Grain and Cooked Meals need the Freezer, everything else can be stored on a shelf.

I my current save I am in the process of working towards the two so I can set them up in my walk in food locker. I had a somewhat decently large food locker in another save but the AC units could not keep up with the heatwaves, I have a smaller one now so I can test if it keeps up when I get AC unlocked as its 9x11 atm.

One day of solar flare will turn off your AC units completely ..... I decided against a ' Cold Locker' you must not have run into a solar flare? (anything that uses a CPU stops working)
TH3xR34P3R Nov 15, 2022 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by DarkHorse:
Originally posted by TH3xR34P3R:
Pickled Veggies are the only thing that really needs to be put in at least fridge to keep it from spoiling. Buttermellons, Meats, Grain and Cooked Meals need the Freezer, everything else can be stored on a shelf.

I my current save I am in the process of working towards the two so I can set them up in my walk in food locker. I had a somewhat decently large food locker in another save but the AC units could not keep up with the heatwaves, I have a smaller one now so I can test if it keeps up when I get AC unlocked as its 9x11 atm.

One day of solar flare will turn off your AC units completely ..... I decided against a ' Cold Locker' you must not have run into a solar flare? (anything that uses a CPU stops working)

Actually I do get flares, eclipses in this current map hence why I am mainly seeing if the AC will keep up in the summer and keeping to the fridge/freezer for the main items.

Reminds me I need to setup flamethrowers in my slalom for when they affect my turrets and launcher. I have been turtaling a little this time around to get things setup and rush too much other than focusing on the core research first lol.
Last edited by TH3xR34P3R; Nov 15, 2022 @ 9:38pm
kenknudsen2016 Nov 16, 2022 @ 1:48am 
i have a warm house and a cool room to all the stuff and i am only using one AC
Udune Nov 16, 2022 @ 3:56am 
Yep definitely go for a freezer room with aircons at -10.. Once I switched to this stratt from using multiple freezers a few of my regular breakdowns issues were immediately solved.
jojobe Nov 16, 2022 @ 3:59am 
The frig is a headache..they take the freshest food. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT GENIUS thought of that solution (its a worse alternative)... but the freezer is the way to go. If you cook a lot of food and they are just eating the freshest food and your using a frig you will run into rot its guaranteed so screw it put it in the freezer.
Last edited by jojobe; Nov 16, 2022 @ 4:00am
ntou Nov 16, 2022 @ 4:48am 
We survive our first year or even more without a fridge of freezer . Reading a post in the discussions thread , someone said about having a cold room with few freezers into and lot of storage shelf . The room need to be build with good thermal materials aka carbon or concrete if u haven't mine a nest .You can add 2 thermostats , one to control the ac units and the other to control the freezers , works fine without thermostat but it was a nice add on. All that depends on your play style and how u want to build your base and i never store cooked food on a freezer or cold room.
A solar flare isn't a big issue cause the food inside will not rotter for few days cause is under roof and by saying few days u just need to check every item to see how many days can last under roof.
JeanDeaux Nov 16, 2022 @ 6:07am 
I finally went with a freezer towards end game so that I could have the cook store up some delicious microwave dinners for my meat sacks who can't cook and will be left alone to defend the base while they wait alone for that last escape pod. Otherwise, I had no problems finding meat to cook up so there was little worry about food spoilage for me. Farms kept the veggie supplies coming frequently enough as well, so... meh.
Last edited by JeanDeaux; Nov 16, 2022 @ 6:08am
gizmo6023 Nov 16, 2022 @ 7:34am 
Freezer is the way to go as long as you don't mind the constant break downs. Cold rooms give you more storage but the dreaded solar flare is an issue if it lasts for more than a few days.
I thought i would out smart the game and put freezers in my cold room and guess what.
When the freezer broke in a 14 deg F room the food inside rapidly started to warm and spoil.
Code says you are screwed if the freezer breaks and there is nothing you can do about it.
Cotaks Nov 16, 2022 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by Paraleo:
why aircons at -10 C or is it F for you guys , stuff is considered frozen at 0 i think.

I keep mine at -2 C and start the freezers if temps go above that for some reason,
also during solar flares u have to do some micro ... switch all freezers to circuit none so they keep going while the flare lasts then put them back to a termostat circuit, and u need a different termostat for the cold room with different circuits numbers else things will get messy.
So you use aircons + freezers, then get rid of the aircons and use freezers, they are way better.

People often say shelves hold more space, that's not true, infact the freezer has 2 more slots per tile then shelves have, making freezers better then shelves. Also no micromanaging needed, freezers run with solar flares and heat waves, a cold room you suddenly need to double or triple your aircons to keep it cold with a heatwave (also depends on material used for the room, stone/wood not good for cold rooms).

I rather spend some electronics to repair a freezer then micromanage everything in there. A very simple solution would be: let your cook cook tons of meals and store that in a single freezer, then everything else can simply spoil/rot away. Choice is yours.
ADLER Nov 16, 2022 @ 10:50am 
I am surprised about the comments of the cold room & solar flares. I haven't lost anything from them. I can only assume you are making a cold room out of wood or something.

Remember to back your AC units into your living space, as it warms those as it keeps the cold room cold.

I use one freezer late game to keep just the cooked meals in as I prepare to exit people form the planet.
spacedog Nov 16, 2022 @ 3:08pm 
I have a 15x9 all-carbon cold room. It's cooled by 12 air conditioners, which is double the amount needed to keep up with an extreme heat wave (for that particular room). This gives me plenty of redundancy in case of breakdowns -- probably more than I need.

Four of the air conditioners run all the time, the rest are split across two circuits controlled by thermostats outside: Four more will turn on when the temperature is above 20C, and the last four if it goes above 35C. This reduces the number of breakdowns I have to deal with, because breakdowns won't occur when devices are powered off. I could have made it more granular, but they only give us 10 circuits to work with.

Thanks to the carbon, whenever a solar flare happens it takes a while for the cold room to increase in temperature to the point where it's not considered frozen, and even longer until it's not considered refrigerated. In the summer, it usually takes a little over a day to reach this point. It never happens in the winter.

I store all of my grain, raw fruit, and raw vegetables in the cold room. All of these things have an "unrefrigerated but under a roof" shelf life of 36 days or more. Literally it would require more than a year (48 days) worth of accumulated solar flare time during the summer to spoil my food. Realistically you're looking at 20+ game years of time, probably more. By then, any food that had accrued a few days of "spoilage" along the way will have long since been eaten and replaced by fresh crops. It is 100% a total non-issue.

Because of the cold room, I'm using about 30% as much electricity as if I had all freezers, and -- much more importantly -- it's costing me alloys instead of electronics for repairs. If you ever build a base large enough that you start going through close to 30K grain a year, you'll understand why freezers don't scale.

I only use 2 freezers, one for cooked meals and one for raw meat, because those things have a significantly shorter shelf life when not frozen (only a few days).
jojobe Nov 16, 2022 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by gizmo6023:
Freezer is the way to go as long as you don't mind the constant break downs. Cold rooms give you more storage but the dreaded solar flare is an issue if it lasts for more than a few days.
I thought i would out smart the game and put freezers in my cold room and guess what.
When the freezer broke in a 14 deg F room the food inside rapidly started to warm and spoil.
Code says you are screwed if the freezer breaks and there is nothing you can do about it.
Unlike rimworld the mutant food on this planet does not stay frozen for and hour so it immediately thaws you have not time to repair the thing before rot sets in. the rot is fast no matter how fast you get there and fix it. Its like the decay catches up to it proper date of decay...its rapid decay.
NukeAJS Nov 17, 2022 @ 12:34am 
I use one freezer and a cold room. Freezer is for meals and is near my dining table, cold room is for everything that needs to be stored -- storage shelf for everything else.

Solar flares knock out the cold room, but it's usually not enough time to actually matter much. The insulation you use in the cold room matters a lot too. A carbon fiber cold room can stay freezing for almost the entire duration of a solar flare. A wooden one will heat up in a matter of hours.
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Date Posted: Nov 15, 2022 @ 5:59pm
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