Corruption of Champions II
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Corruption of Champions II

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Josua Aug 31, 2020 @ 11:12pm
Go full demon (or be a demon from the get-go) for gameplay?
I mean... It's the opposite of the current story, but why not go the opposite of our current story and be the bad guy, helping Kasyrra? I mean, because why not?
Last edited by Josua; Aug 31, 2020 @ 11:13pm
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Because the amount of work it would take would be astronomical to the point where they might as well make an entirely new game.
Josua Sep 1, 2020 @ 4:39am 
It's simply adding another scenario (I know it's not that simple, but it's a very rough and simplified overview). And this is while the game is still in its early stages, so yeah.
"It's just simply adding another scenario"

There's nothing "simple" about needing to rewrite the entire plot and most characters, interactions, dungeons, and indeed the game's content given that the fundamental premise would have to be changed.

This is not to mention that they already have the game's entire plot mapped out on their story bible on the forums.

At which point, I will reiterate, they might as well make another game.
Last edited by Doesn't Learn From Mistakes; Sep 1, 2020 @ 5:17am
SteemPunkzter Sep 1, 2020 @ 9:52am 
there used to be editoes idk if they still exist if you want a demon run of the game go to FENOXO hit play get yourself CoC 1 and then LOOK around for CoCed the editor will let you do what ever you want idk if CoC2 still does or even has a editor but CoC 1 has one soooo there you go ALSO youll find the whole thing free including this game but hey
Ariko Sep 1, 2020 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by S.teampunkzter:
there used to be editoes idk if they still exist if you want a demon run of the game go to FENOXO hit play get yourself CoC 1 and then LOOK around for CoCed the editor will let you do what ever you want idk if CoC2 still does or even has a editor but CoC 1 has one soooo there you go ALSO youll find the whole thing free including this game but hey
Do a search for coc2 editor. A link to the CoC2 wiki page on save editing should be in the results, which will have a link to both a download and a webpage with the editor built into it.
trent8086 Sep 1, 2020 @ 10:59am 
Meh...I thought letting her do all the naughty stuff to you was along those lines. Besides you can't just be evil from the get go because the game has to have opposites otherwise why would anyone in the town help you or join your party if you are the one corrupting the entire world? Its mostly so you can have some kind of plot.
Shining_Darkness Sep 8, 2020 @ 1:39pm 
I mean you literally lose if you go full demon so....yeah there is that answer for "why not?" You would literally start the game then lose without overhauling one of the main codes.
Sweet Tooth Sep 8, 2020 @ 11:40pm 
You can act as Kas' pet. But going full demon is one of endings - there's a scene somewhere around plant girl boss where you need enough Corruption to launch scene. Kas will take your soul and then feed it to you turning champion to demon.
Originally posted by trent8086:
Meh...I thought letting her do all the naughty stuff to you was along those lines. Besides you can't just be evil from the get go because the game has to have opposites otherwise why would anyone in the town help you or join your party if you are the one corrupting the entire world? Its mostly so you can have some kind of plot.
Not a problem in CoC1, just make sure you get access to town before going wild. So why it should be a problem in CoC2, where you start at town?
Last edited by Sweet Tooth; Sep 8, 2020 @ 11:43pm
Necrorifter Sep 16, 2020 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by werdry:
You can act as Kas' pet. But going full demon is one of endings - there's a scene somewhere around plant girl boss where you need enough Corruption to launch scene. Kas will take your soul and then feed it to you turning champion to demon.
Originally posted by trent8086:
Meh...I thought letting her do all the naughty stuff to you was along those lines. Besides you can't just be evil from the get go because the game has to have opposites otherwise why would anyone in the town help you or join your party if you are the one corrupting the entire world? Its mostly so you can have some kind of plot.
Not a problem in CoC1, just make sure you get access to town before going wild. So why it should be a problem in CoC2, where you start at town?

probarly something to do with fact that world in CoC1 are already mostly corrupted and its denizens are used to them and hostile to demons unless proven otherwise. Where CoC2 are uncorrupted and second one will be hostile to you if you are demon, hence the game over if you go full demon. Also it seem that corruption in first game is toward body, where in second one is body and mind, so you can go full "evil" compared to champion that can be good guy in first game despite be full demon.
Sweet Tooth Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Necrorifter:
probarly something to do with fact that world in CoC1 are already mostly corrupted and its denizens are used to them
Actually, i dont see any major difference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And even on 100 Corruptio you can be a good Champion. Or be Kas' pet with low Corruption. Same scenes, except for locked game over scene after Wayfort.
Same as at CoC1, where you can act as you want, an even major evil like corrupting Marae is optional and avaliable for both good and bad
Necrorifter Sep 16, 2020 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by werdry:
Originally posted by Necrorifter:
probarly something to do with fact that world in CoC1 are already mostly corrupted and its denizens are used to them
Actually, i dont see any major difference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And even on 100 Corruptio you can be a good Champion. Or be Kas' pet with low Corruption. Same scenes, except for locked game over scene after Wayfort.
Same as at CoC1, where you can act as you want, an even major evil like corrupting Marae is optional and avaliable for both good and bad

As i say, CoC1 corruption doesnt seem to corrupt you completely, hence you can be good or bad while demon... but then you never ♥♥♥ out your soul until at Demon Queen castle where various encounter can lead to that bad ends.

But in CoC2, your character are completely infused with magic of portal that allow transformation to well tranform you far more easily than before, dare I say, even your mind. hence you can get utterly corrupted though Kas bad end right after defeat plant queen, before you enter the kitsune forest. Also the developer have not focus on corruption side, hence why you can walk around with 100 corruption because there is no content for them, also I believe that developer say it is impossible to get 100 corruption through normal means beside that one encounter with Kas which suppose to lead to bad end. perhaps that have changed now, but clearly there is no content for 100 corruption at the moment.
MO3A3ABP Sep 17, 2020 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by Necrorifter:
also I believe that developer say it is impossible to get 100 corruption through normal means beside that one encounter with Kas which suppose to lead to bad end. perhaps that have changed now, but clearly there is no content for 100 corruption at the moment.
After completing the hornet hive quest you can raise your corruption up to 90 by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the queen. Then ♥♥♥♥ Sugo free during his first encounter and equip Girthy Rod.
Necrorifter Sep 17, 2020 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by MO3A3ABP:
Originally posted by Necrorifter:
also I believe that developer say it is impossible to get 100 corruption through normal means beside that one encounter with Kas which suppose to lead to bad end. perhaps that have changed now, but clearly there is no content for 100 corruption at the moment.
After completing the hornet hive quest you can raise your corruption up to 90 by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the queen. Then ♥♥♥♥ Sugo free during his first encounter and equip Girthy Rod.

Ahh, thank for that tip, i can use that for my dark lord play through.
GrandMajora Sep 23, 2020 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by Doesn't Learn From Mistakes:
Because the amount of work it would take would be astronomical to the point where they might as well make an entirely new game.

CoC 1 handled it easily enough. There were transformatives that could turn you into a Succubus / Incubus / Omnibus, or even an Imp.

And if you got your corruption level high enough, you could begin to corrupt and enslave other NPC's in the game. Such as Jojo, the mouse monk. You could even mutate him into a giant, tentacled penis monster.

Another NPC was Amily, who would not appear before you if your corruption was above 20, unless you had already encountered her before. You needed to have a high level of Speed / Agility to be able to stop her from knocking you out with a sleeping dart. But if you managed to do so, you could feed her a corrupted version of her own potion, which would turn her into your mind controlled slave after the third dosage.

Lastly, there was a tree goddess who's soul stone could be corrupted, turning her from a protective goddess into a lustful demon. But in order to successfully steal it, you also needed to have a high level of agility / speed.
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
CoC 1 handled it easily enough...

Imp food, incubus draft and succubus milk did NOT turn you into an actual demon, they just made you look like one. Under no circumstances outside of a bad end did you ♥♥♥ out your soul as lethicite and turn into a demon.

The equivalent of what the OP wants here in the original would be to give in to Zetaz, ally with Lethice right from very start and either play an entire game as a slave in the demon factory like all the previous champions, or otherwise serve her like the minotaur king or the basilisk king. That in itself would have required an entirely different game -- just as a small fraction of the changes that would be needed, the demon factory, Zetaz's lair and Lethice's keep would have to be completely binned and an entire new storyline written.

All of the above examples you gave were examples of corruption, which the player did on their own terms and certainly did NOT change the basic premise of the game that whether pure or corrupted, you opposed Lethice for one reason or another. There are certainly ample (but more subtle) options to corrupt people and places in the sequel, which does not translate to siding with Kasyrra.

In short, you gave a complete non-sequitur to the OP's argument.
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