Is Multiplayer just completely dead now?

[Give Me That Pizza!]

as the title suggest, I'm tryna find out what is wrong with multiplayer. I just came back to the game (got a new rig) and I can never find a match, one time i let the matchmaking go on for a good 25 minutes, didnt find a match and I ended up dying and cancelling the matchmaking. before, I use to be able to queue up into bosses all the time to help people out, as well as invasions.

are there any fixes for this or is this just how it is now? Im level 80 and my weapon is +16 cause Ive heard that affects queue times i guess.

[nfinite.recursion]

Originally posted by Give Me That Pizza!:

Im level 80 and my weapon is +16 cause Ive heard that affects queue times i guess.

Uh, not exactly. Rune level and maximum weapon level determine whether or not you're going to be summoned, period. If they are out of whack like RL20, WL+25, you're highly unlikely to be summoned as RL20 players are typically just starting the game and still in Limgrave with minimal or no weapon upgrades.

From personal experience, it's MUCH easier to co-op at low levels or high levels (within reason) because you can expect players to be exploring Limgrave and Weeping Penninsula at low levels with minimal weapon upgrades and at higher levels, there are a number of gatekeeper bosses that are mandatory for completing the game which takes a lot of guesswork out of determining average player levels in the open world.

Also, disabling summoning pools outside your level seems to improve summoning times. The assumption is that when you send your sign, it sends to 1 or maybe a few summoning pools at a time, but it doesn't take into account whether or not the area your sign is being sent to is level-appropriate.

Also, don't forget to clear your password after you get password summoned. Nothing like waiting a long time to get summoned by randos only to finally realize you had a password set.

[Esteys]

Most poeple use the seemless coop mod, vanilla feels pretty much dead

[pauloandrade224]

also theres a very high chance of your game getting destroyed by a loser that would normally go to jail in real life after doing said thing.


i just dont do multiplayer because of that garbage myself. i used to do it tho but not anymore.

[Dova Sos]

Originally posted by Esteys:

Most poeple use the seemless coop mod, vanilla feels pretty much dead

And for what reason are they using this mod ?

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

also theres a very high chance of your game getting destroyed by a loser that would normally go to jail in real life after doing said thing.


i just dont do multiplayer because of that garbage myself. i used to do it tho but not anymore.

As much as cheaters suck, don't let some wise guy discourage you from playing multiplayer. As long as you create manual save file back ups, you should be good.

[pauloandrade224]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

also theres a very high chance of your game getting destroyed by a loser that would normally go to jail in real life after doing said thing.


i just dont do multiplayer because of that garbage myself. i used to do it tho but not anymore.

As much as cheaters suck, don't let some wise guy discourage you from playing multiplayer. As long as you create manual save file back ups, you should be good.

nah nah im not doing it too hard for me

[Dova Sos]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

also theres a very high chance of your game getting destroyed by a loser that would normally go to jail in real life after doing said thing.


i just dont do multiplayer because of that garbage myself. i used to do it tho but not anymore.

As much as cheaters suck, don't let some wise guy discourage you from playing multiplayer. As long as you create manual save file back ups, you should be good.

Wasn't this the same method to protect against cheaters and hackers back in Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 ? From Soft really have advanced a lot in these years with the engine. TO the point that nobody plays the PVP, except some mod which I am trying now to understand why it is prefered option

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by Dova Sos:

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

As much as cheaters suck, don't let some wise guy discourage you from playing multiplayer. As long as you create manual save file back ups, you should be good.

Wasn't this the same method to protect against cheaters and hackers back in Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 ?

I believe so.

[csand]

Originally posted by Esteys:

Most poeple use the seemless coop mod, vanilla feels pretty much dead

This isn't really true either.

The vanilla game is huge, and traffic in all summoning ranges is just limited now with lower player count. It's the same story with all souls games, eventually

BTW if you do use seamless, disable invasions and only play with people you know. There are no protections

[Mr. Scoot]

Just started NG+ at lvl 200 and am finding a lot of players

[Damien Scott]

Originally posted by Dova Sos:

Originally posted by Esteys:

Most poeple use the seemless coop mod, vanilla feels pretty much dead

And for what reason are they using this mod ?

seamless co op allows you to play with up to like six people without having any of the fog walls limiting the play area where your friend is summoned. you can literally start with your friends at the tutorial cave, and end the game at the erdtree without ever having to summon them. it also has other mechanics baked in you can turn on or off to change up the gameplay a bit and it scales everything to that number of players.

Seamless Co-Op either uses steam servers to connect players or some form of peer-to-peer.

A LOT of people also use Seamless Co Op as an Offline Mode launcher to use other mods without having to worry about accidentally going on the FromSoftware servers and getting account banned.

Since Japanese devs refuse to release games that have Ultrawide Support or allow for framerates higher than 60, a lot of people use seamless co op so they can actually utilize their modern monitors without the threat of getting banned.

[Turd Cutter]

everyone uses that stupid seamless co op mod. Thats the problem. Vinalla is flooded with hackers