Melina was a garbage design character.

[R for Reload]

Like she could of easily just not been in the game she has almost no impact on the story shes just there for exposition, AKA lazy writing.
I didn't need a character telling me her opinion in any other game and after you frenzy flame she threatens you and you don't get even get to kill her.
So garbage.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by ☣ N\A ☣:

Kinda agree tbh... In the over 100 hrs journey you maybe talk to her 5 times. Often I even forgot that she exist... and she either dies or she gonna hate you so yeah she is a weird character.

You missed a lot. I frequently saw her at sites of grace. Look for the prompt near the bottom while resting in some places.

MMMMMM exposition

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

You missed a lot. I frequently saw her at sites of grace. Look for the prompt near the bottom while resting in some places.

MMMMMM exposition

As opposed to... remind me again what the main purpose of every other NPC in the game is?

Besides stomping on godricks head or kicking you off a ledge.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

MMMMMM exposition

As opposed to... remind me again what the main purpose of every other NPC in the game is?

Besides stomping on godricks head or kicking you off a ledge.

To be characters with actual stories that isn't "Oh I can't die because I'm already dead yet some how can communicate TEEHEE"
not just there purely for exposition.

[Fenix]

Her version of Water Fowl Dance is her only problem.... otherwise she is fine.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

To be characters with actual stories that isn't "Oh I can't die because I'm already dead yet some how can communicate TEEHEE"
not just there purely for exposition.

She does have a story. She even tells you her story piece by piece. You just didn't listen.

The problem isn't Melina, its between the keyboard and the chair.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

As opposed to... remind me again what the main purpose of every other NPC in the game is?

Besides stomping on godricks head or kicking you off a ledge.

To be characters with actual stories that isn't "Oh I can't die because I'm already dead yet some how can communicate TEEHEE"
not just there purely for exposition.

And yet you call Oblivion a Masterpiece lol.
A game with countless of those NPCs.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

To be characters with actual stories that isn't "Oh I can't die because I'm already dead yet some how can communicate TEEHEE"
not just there purely for exposition.

And yet you call Oblivion a Masterpiece lol.
A game with countless of those NPCs.

I would take literally any oblivion NPC over melina.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

And yet you call Oblivion a Masterpiece lol.
A game with countless of those NPCs.

I would take literally any oblivion NPC over melina.

Which goes to show how biased you are.
Oblivion literally has characters like that.
Yet you're fine with those cause it's oblivion, your beloved masterpiece of a game.

What a joke.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

I would take literally any oblivion NPC over melina.

Which goes to show how biased you are.
Oblivion literally has characters like that.
Yet you're fine with those cause it's oblivion, your beloved masterpiece of a game.

What a joke.

NPCs in oblivion have more personaility then melina or ranni
Maybe you're the bias one
lol.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Which goes to show how biased you are.
Oblivion literally has characters like that.
Yet you're fine with those cause it's oblivion, your beloved masterpiece of a game.

What a joke.

NPCs in oblivion have more personaility then melina or ranni
Maybe you're the bias one
lol.

NPCs in Oblivion literally only have like three different voice-actors and some of them even have different ones that they switch during a dialogue.

You can't seriously believe yourself at this point. This is just outlandish.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

NPCs in oblivion have more personaility then melina or ranni
Maybe you're the bias one
lol.

NPCs in Oblivion literally only have like three different voice-actors and some of them even have different ones that they switch during a dialogue.

You can't seriously believe yourself at this point. This is just outlandish.

guy how does having a voice actor change a character from being good or bad.
Literally having individual voice actors isn't a benefit.
Man you must be like not even 18 years old yet considering you're never played a game without voice acting.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

NPCs in Oblivion literally only have like three different voice-actors and some of them even have different ones that they switch during a dialogue.

You can't seriously believe yourself at this point. This is just outlandish.

guy how does having a voice actor change a character from being good or bad.
Literally having individual voice actors isn't a benefit.
Man you must be like not even 18 years old yet considering you're never played a game without voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkmx8sDi1o

Having a handful of voice-actors and having npcs switch voice-actors on the fly completely ruins the immersion of the game. It becomes a joke.

And then you have dialogue such as the one presented in the video.
Yeeeeeeeees, completely believable. Great acting. Great game. Truly a Masterpiece.

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

guy how does having a voice actor change a character from being good or bad.
Literally having individual voice actors isn't a benefit.
Man you must be like not even 18 years old yet considering you're never played a game without voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkmx8sDi1o

Having a handful of voice-actors and having npcs switch voice-actors on the fly completely ruins the immersion of the game. It becomes a joke.

And then you have dialogue such as the one presented in the video.
Yeeeeeeeees, completely believable. Great acting. Great game. Truly a Masterpiece.

Sorry that no other game has even attempted to make dialogue like this out of the blue?
Is that better in RPG games like div 2 or BG3 where NPCS ARE LITERALLY ON A 10 SECOND LOOP.
At least this game attempts to do something other games haven't even tried.

You don't even know how good this type of system is.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkmx8sDi1o

Having a handful of voice-actors and having npcs switch voice-actors on the fly completely ruins the immersion of the game. It becomes a joke.

And then you have dialogue such as the one presented in the video.
Yeeeeeeeees, completely believable. Great acting. Great game. Truly a Masterpiece.

Sorry that no other game has even attempted to make dialogue like this out of the blue?
Is that better in RPG games like div 2 or BG3 where NPCS ARE LITERALLY ON A 10 SECOND LOOP.
At least this game attempts to do something other games haven't even tried.

You don't even know how good this type of system is.

I'd rather have npcs shut the ♥♥♥♥ up then npcs literally making absolutely no sense and acting like robots. There is literally no emotion in their voices. She actively repeated the same dialogue of the guard.

You truly wanna sit there and tell me that you prefer this over NPCs behaving like actual humans? Seriously? THIS is the hill you wanna die on?

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Sorry that no other game has even attempted to make dialogue like this out of the blue?
Is that better in RPG games like div 2 or BG3 where NPCS ARE LITERALLY ON A 10 SECOND LOOP.
At least this game attempts to do something other games haven't even tried.

You don't even know how good this type of system is.

I'd rather have npcs shut the ♥♥♥♥ up then npcs literally making absolutely no sense and acting like robots. There is literally no emotion in their voices. She actively repeated the same dialogue of the guard.

You truly wanna sit there and tell me that you prefer this over NPCs behaving like actual humans? Seriously? THIS is the hill you wanna die on?

Guy have you played a souls game?
Not a single NPC has any emotion at all lol.
Their characters don't have any special facial expression
they always look the same lol.

Yet you're complaining about oblivion who tried to make random immersive flowing conversations with a limited amount of lines. Sure it looks bad now because its dated and games weren't nearly as big of media back then as they are now.

"NPCs behaving like actual humans" guy NO NPC IN A SOULS GAME ACTS LIKE A HUMAN LOL.

They don't even attempt to lip sync lol