Is anyone who's good at computers willing to help me solve why Elden Ring lags on a high-end pc?

[kdojari]

I really need help. The game is unplayable. I have literally Ryzen 7 9800x3d and Radeon RX 7900 XTX, the game should be butter smooth.

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

The fact that we are *still* on an extended b'aww session--across multiple threads--really outstrips anything DB might have been guilty of here. I'm sorry he was a little abrasive and abrupt, but I understand that reaction; it's one I never show students, because I will absolutely resign my post the day I verbally berate a kid for asking *the same damn question I've just answered for the fifth time in as many minutes*, but God knows I've felt the desire many, many times.

Y'all need to let this go. DB owed you nothing, OP, so the "unfriending" shouldn't be taken nearly as personally as you seem to be feeling it here. Could he have been nicer? Certainly. But you could also not be spending *days of your life* crying about it to the rest of us like a post-breakup Adele album. Continuous performative victimhood is not a good look.

I’ve already said this but I didn’t per se get annoyed by him unfriending me and stopping talking to me, I got annoyed by the fact that he just randomly without any notice unfriended me, meaning I couldn’t even talk to him in any way. He could had at least told me he didn’t wanna keep talking to me, don’t you think? I mean it takes two seconds to just write that.

I also find it annoying how he then a day later or so told me he wasn’t gonna help me anymore (and also unnecessarily had to add how I apparently could cause damage to his intellect and how I am a psychological stress test for him) but then a few days later just pops up in my comments with an attitude when I was feeling happy about fixing the lag.

[Radex]

Postat inițial de SinsiliuxS:

Postat inițial de Radex:

ackshually

What is interesting with this post:

You are unable to name another game which is unplayble for many people because it conflicts with their mouse software. Or requires to download a 3rd party program to set an affinity for the game's process. Or do a registry tweak to change its priority. Or has a dozen if not more other obscure beyond belief solutions that work for some, but not others. Or even better - nothing works.

Postat inițial de Radex:

i even see you answer to one of his comments that the game runs fine for you and does not stutter, so what is the point ?

I intentionally put that reply in quotation marks, to make the obvious sarcasm extra obvious, but I guess it wasn't enough to foolproof it against your lack of reading comprehension or the obsessive yet half-ahhed scrolling through my post history (wtf lol?)

I'm not a computer expert to discuss this. In any case, Google finds countless postings for countless games from the last few years where Logitech Hub even causes blue screens. Other mouse software also obviously causes problems in games with various anti-cheat software. Stuttering with Logitech Hub software in the background is also a problem that has been known for longer than Elden Ring exist(Google is not your strong point, obviously).

As far as I know, none of dark-breed's solutions involve installing third-party programs to change the affinity of a program. On the contrary, a large number of the problems he has dealt with were triggered by such programs. As far as can be understood, the information about Logitech comes from Fromsoft itself, even if only very few are affected and there may be another underlying problem. That would be something you would have to discuss with dark-breed, he certainly has more information about what is causing the problems.

What is more obscure is that you want to tar a range of 15 years of various computer hardware builds with the same brush. Do you really think that a 15-year-old computer works the same as a new one and offers the same range of features? This opinion is really obscure.

[Lord Bob]

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Once again the defending his behavior 😭 It’s so fascinating to me. How are you defending someone who is constantly rude to people, I don’t get it, and I’m not just talking about being rude to me, but to others as well.

I tried to explain this in the most neutral way possible. I talked in db's defense, but I also tried to shine a light on what might have lead to the situation and that he might have to work on some things himself, if only for him to have an easier time in dealing with people. At the end of the day I'm not his or anyones dad, nor his guardian, he can do however he pleases.

If the only thing you got from me posting this wall of text is "Once again the defending his behavior 😭" you might have some introspection to do, because there was way more involved, including you not accepting someone on the internet not giving you the amount of attention you think you deserve, and posting about it over several threads no less.

Someone was rude? Get over it. Block them, don't interact with them, but stop trying to draw everyone's attention towards you like the unthinkable just happened to you.

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Once again the defending his behavior 😭 It’s so fascinating to me. How are you defending someone who is constantly rude to people, I don’t get it, and I’m not just talking about being rude to me, but to others as well.

I’m also just replying to all the comments that come up in ”notifications” and it seems like people have been talking about him in all of my three posts. I didn’t purposely talk about him in three posts, I’ve just been replying to the comments without even seeing what post it was in.

TL;DR: "It's not my fault! Y'all are making me behave this way!"

K, dude. Get an MCR album and a LiveJournal account; they'll do you more good than whatever this is supposed to be.

Why would I be at fault for replying to comments?

[Lord Bob]

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Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

TL;DR: "It's not my fault! Y'all are making me behave this way!"

K, dude. Get an MCR album and a LiveJournal account; they'll do you more good than whatever this is supposed to be.

Why would I be at fault for replying to comments?

Because it takes two to tango.

[An Irate Walrus]

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

The fact that we are *still* on an extended b'aww session--across multiple threads--really outstrips anything DB might have been guilty of here. I'm sorry he was a little abrasive and abrupt, but I understand that reaction; it's one I never show students, because I will absolutely resign my post the day I verbally berate a kid for asking *the same damn question I've just answered for the fifth time in as many minutes*, but God knows I've felt the desire many, many times.

Y'all need to let this go. DB owed you nothing, OP, so the "unfriending" shouldn't be taken nearly as personally as you seem to be feeling it here. Could he have been nicer? Certainly. But you could also not be spending *days of your life* crying about it to the rest of us like a post-breakup Adele album. Continuous performative victimhood is not a good look.

I’ve already said this but I didn’t per se get annoyed by him unfriending me and stopping talking to me, I got annoyed by the fact that he just randomly without any notice unfriended me, meaning I couldn’t even talk to him in any way. He could had at least told me he didn’t wanna keep talking to me, don’t you think? I mean it takes two seconds to just write that.

I also find it annoying how he then a day later or so told me he wasn’t gonna help me anymore (and also unnecessarily had to add how I apparently could cause damage to his intellect and how I am a psychological stress test for him) but then a few days later just pops up in my comments with an attitude when I was feeling happy about fixing the lag.

I think we all know this at this point, because, as has been said a few times, you've been bemoaning his less-than-servile behavior for days and across multiple threads.

We get it. He bruised your feelings.

Could he have been nicer about things? Absolutely. Nobody's saying otherwise.

But could you stop behaving like a jilted lover over a limited set of interactions with a complete stranger in an online environment? That remains to be seen, but the available evidence is not encouraging at the moment.

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de Lord Bob:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Once again the defending his behavior 😭 It’s so fascinating to me. How are you defending someone who is constantly rude to people, I don’t get it, and I’m not just talking about being rude to me, but to others as well.

I tried to explain this in the most neutral way possible. I talked in db's defense, but I also tried to shine a light on what might have lead to the situation and that he might have to work on some things himself, if only for him to have an easier time in dealing with people. At the enf of the day I'm not his or anyones dad, nor his guardian, he can do however he pleases.

If the only thing you got from me posting this wall of text is "Once again the defending his behavior 😭" you might have some introspection to do, because there was way more involved, including you not accepting someone on the internet not giving you the amount of attention you think you deserve, and posting about it over several threads no less.

Someone was rude? Get over it. Block them, don't interact with them, but stop trying to draw everyone's attention towards you like the unthinkable just happened to you.

I’m not trying to draw everyone’s attention towards me, I don’t even know why this seemed to kinda blow up. All of this started by me replying one of Dark Breed’s new comments lol.

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

The fact that we are *still* on an extended b'aww session--across multiple threads--really outstrips anything DB might have been guilty of here. I'm sorry he was a little abrasive and abrupt, but I understand that reaction; it's one I never show students, because I will absolutely resign my post the day I verbally berate a kid for asking *the same damn question I've just answered for the fifth time in as many minutes*, but God knows I've felt the desire many, many times.

Y'all need to let this go. DB owed you nothing, OP, so the "unfriending" shouldn't be taken nearly as personally as you seem to be feeling it here. Could he have been nicer? Certainly. But you could also not be spending *days of your life* crying about it to the rest of us like a post-breakup Adele album. Continuous performative victimhood is not a good look.

He willingly befriended me and messaged me offering help mind you, and I get insulted for being bad at computers

[An Irate Walrus]

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Postat inițial de Lord Bob:

I tried to explain this in the most neutral way possible. I talked in db's defense, but I also tried to shine a light on what might have lead to the situation and that he might have to work on some things himself, if only for him to have an easier time in dealing with people. At the enf of the day I'm not his or anyones dad, nor his guardian, he can do however he pleases.

If the only thing you got from me posting this wall of text is "Once again the defending his behavior 😭" you might have some introspection to do, because there was way more involved, including you not accepting someone on the internet not giving you the amount of attention you think you deserve, and posting about it over several threads no less.

Someone was rude? Get over it. Block them, don't interact with them, but stop trying to draw everyone's attention towards you like the unthinkable just happened to you.

I’m not trying to draw everyone’s attention towards me, I don’t even know why this seemed to kinda blow up. All of this started by me replying one of Dark Breed’s new comments lol.

You: *posts multiple threads about the same subject*

Also you: *continuously drags a single user while propping up comments that agree with said dragging and attacking those that do not*

Also also you: "Gee, I don't know why this blew up!"

It's always possible you're actually incapable of seeing your part in all of this; socially maladroit behavior does seem more common in online environments than their offline counterparts--but personally, I'm reading the "aw shucks, it weren't my fault, y'all" performance as exactly that: a performance.

You have to live with the person in the mirror, as do I--but thankfully they're not the same individual. I'm going to leave it there.

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de Lord Bob:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Once again the defending his behavior 😭 It’s so fascinating to me. How are you defending someone who is constantly rude to people, I don’t get it, and I’m not just talking about being rude to me, but to others as well.

I tried to explain this in the most neutral way possible. I talked in db's defense, but I also tried to shine a light on what might have lead to the situation and that he might have to work on some things himself, if only for him to have an easier time in dealing with people. At the end of the day I'm not his or anyones dad, nor his guardian, he can do however he pleases.

If the only thing you got from me posting this wall of text is "Once again the defending his behavior 😭" you might have some introspection to do, because there was way more involved, including you not accepting someone on the internet not giving you the amount of attention you think you deserve, and posting about it over several threads no less.

Someone was rude? Get over it. Block them, don't interact with them, but stop trying to draw everyone's attention towards you like the unthinkable just happened to you.

I’M JUST REPLYING TO COMMENTS JESUS, I’m not trying to draw any attention towards me… I can’t help something blew up and I get comments. I’m not gonna ignore comments I get…

[Lord Bob]

Postat inițial de kdojari:

I’m not trying to draw everyone’s attention towards me, I don’t even know why this seemed to kinda blow up. All of this started by me replying one of Dark Breed’s new comments lol.

Immediately followed up by:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

He willingly befriended me and messaged me offering help mind you, and I get insulted for being bad at computers

Do you see a pattern here? How are you actually saying that you are not trying to draw anyone's attention about being treated rudely by a random stranger on the internet, only to post about it, again?

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de An Irate Walrus:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

I’m not trying to draw everyone’s attention towards me, I don’t even know why this seemed to kinda blow up. All of this started by me replying one of Dark Breed’s new comments lol.

You: *posts multiple threads about the same subject*

Also you: *continuously drags a single user while propping up comments that agree with said dragging and attacking those that do not*

Also also you: "Gee, I don't know why this blew up!"

It's always possible you're actually incapable of seeing your part in all of this; socially maladroit behavior does seem more common in online environments than their offline counterparts--but personally, I'm reading the "aw shucks, it weren't my fault, y'all" performance as exactly that: a performance.

You have to live with the person in the mirror, as do I--but thankfully they're not the same individual. I'm going to leave it there.

If a person deserves some dragging I’ll drag them, what can I say? He was the one to comment on my post being rude, not my problem that it blew up and it got many comments. Bye now

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de Lord Bob:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

I’m not trying to draw everyone’s attention towards me, I don’t even know why this seemed to kinda blow up. All of this started by me replying one of Dark Breed’s new comments lol.

Immediately followed up by:

Postat inițial de kdojari:

He willingly befriended me and messaged me offering help mind you, and I get insulted for being bad at computers

Do you see a pattern here? How are you actually saying that you are not trying to draw anyone's attention about being treated rudely by a random stranger on the internet, only to post about it, again?

Why are you defending a random stranger that is rude is my question

[kdojari]

Postat inițial de Azylis:

Postat inițial de SinsiliuxS:

What is interesting with this post:

You are unable to name another game which is unplayble for many people because it conflicts with their mouse software. Or requires to download a 3rd party program to set an affinity for the game's process. Or do a registry tweak to change its priority. Or has a dozen if not more other obscure beyond belief solutions that work for some, but not others. Or even better - nothing works.

You know what dark-breed would say to that? "Those "solutions" are like painting a moldy wall with paint instead of fixing the cause for the mold." He explicitely said in one of his posts that you don't need to set the affinity for the game's process, and especially not to install third party software for that. He also never (not to my knowledge at least) suggested to fiddle with the registry other than to maybe remove remnants of incomplete removals of programs. The reason why this kinda stuff works for some and not for others is that the PCs are different, and the underlying issues are different. He literally says you don't need all that shinanigans if you fix your hardware issues.

What he does is fixing the ACTUAL cause of the problem, which mostly is hardware or driver related, or related to conflicting (background) programms.

Consider Elden Ring to be like a benchmark test that reveals issues with your system that other benchmark tests can't. That does not mean the game code is bad. It just means your PC has issues that you did not know about yet. And you can either paint the wall by doing shinanigans like changing affinity of the game's precess, or you can fix the mold issue entirely by finding what the ACTUAL issue is with the hardware.

To OP: If you read his comments in one of your other threads, dark-breed wasn't entirely sure if you are a troll regarding the nature of your questions, and to be fair, I thought that too at first. He is not a teacher to teach you the very basics of computers, that you will have to do yourself. To actually fix the problems, you will need at least basic knowledge anyway.

Was he rude? Yes, he was. I will not defend that. But put yourself in his shoes also: How annoyed would you be if you are an expert in your field of expertise and someone asks you very basic questions for 2 hours (that they probably could have googled themselves)? Take into account that english is not his native tongue, so maybe some of the things you said rubbed him the wrong way, too. Happens to me sometimes as well, as english is also not my native tongue. A lot of pre-built PCs are also not actually good, even if they cost a lot of money, and he pointed that out to you by presenting you with 2 options for improvement, one being better than the other.

PC parts play together in very delicate ways, and if one doesn't play properly, the entire PC will lack in performance. My advice would be: google the basics. How does a PC work. What parts are needed. How do those parts play together. In theory I would agree that you don't have to know how a car works to drive one. But PCs are a different horse entirely. As a user, you should at least know the basics.

But he was the one who willingly reached out to me? And decided to chat for 2 hours so…

I’m also not native in english, I’m swedish, and sometimes I frankly didn’t understand some of the things he said and needed to ask what he meant.

[Lord Bob]

Postat inițial de kdojari:

Why are you defending a random stranger that is rude is my question

However the conversation between the two of you went, you are not doing yourself a favour here.

I answered your qestion already, and I simply can't help you if you're unable to see that you might play an important role in how this went down.

Have a good one.