Morgott did nothing wrong (spoilers)

[Mr_Blank]

Something that bugs me about the fan base is how much a lot of us hate morgott, when he’s possibly the most redeemable god other than miquella. I will explain what each child of marika/Radagon has done to make them below morgott, and why morgott doesn’t deserve the Shade I see him getting. Reason I’m doing this is because of the Shade my man gets in the official discord.

Renalla and the Carians entered war with the golden order, but she and Radagon fell in love on the battlefield and created peace. While the peace is good, she pretty much abandons the ideals of the carians in favour of the golden order, which hurts her relationship with her troops and children. speaking of which;

Radahn didn’t start out malicious, as were told that he literally only studies gravity magic to be able to ride his horse Leonard. However, likely due to his admiration of Godfrey, he would become a warlord searching for a worthy opponent, which obviously ended in a lotta meaningless bloodshed.

Rykard left his family to create his own order, and eventually fed himself to the god devouring serpent to become immortal. In the process however, he murdered and killed thousands of warriors, as we see in his arena and I. The blasphemous blade.

Ranni started the shattering and that’s the end of that discussion.

Malenia and Miquella are both major traitors. miquella is a traitor to the erdtree because of his work on the Haligtree. Malenia literally destroyed all of caelid by using her bloom of scarlet rot. She ALSO did this to the haligtree for a purpose I do not know (feel free to mald me in the comments about it).

Mohg is a traitor because although I understand why he wanted to leave the shunning grounds he in turn created a dynasty of pure lust and terror that treats everyone who is a part of it like trash, except maybe Varre. Mohg also kidnapped a child so that’s the end of that.

Godrick stole his brother godefroys great rune after he died, making godrick a traitor, AND godrick also steals peoples limbs and grafts them to himself. His poor gatekeeper Gosfoc lost his entire arm to his evil master.

Finally Godwyns a really bad friend since he unintentionally both cursed and trapped his dragon friend fortisaxx after he died. I don’t have any arguement better than that since we know very little about him.

As for the other parents, Godfrey slaughtered an entire race of giants during the war, leaving the mountains without their main protectors to become a Chaotic land (I’m referring to the smaller giants being bullied by crows and giant hands obviously).

Marika and Radagon are the same person meaning Radagon is at fault as much as marika, who was the idiot who shattered the ring in the first place.

Morgott has not killed or fought anyone he didn’t see as a threat, as we know he fought radahn off during the shattering when the demigods raced to grab shards, and we know he only fights the tarnished because he knows they’re in search for the elden ring, and fights them again when they’re at the foot of the erdtree.

Morgott also hasn’t betrayed the erdtree or the golden order, despite all of his family doing so, and despite the erdtree shunning him And not giving him grace. He suffered the same fate as mohg in the shunning grounds yet he still serves the order.

In conclusion, morgott is the only god worth redeeming other than maybe radahn be a use of his love for Leonard, and maybe Godwyn since we don’t know a lot about him.

[mayhem523]

Who hates Morgott? He was always my favorite character out of the demigods.

I don't think of Miquella and Malenia as bad guys either. They mostly seem to have good intentions, especially Miquella who just wants everyone to thrive.

[Sabaithal]

Why do you think most people hate Morgott? I got the opposite impression, that he hates us, what with the whole "clark kent disguise" BS and the nights cavalry everywhere trying to hunt us down.

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Why do you think most people hate Morgott? I got the opposite impression, that he hates us, what with the whole "clark kent disguise" BS and the nights cavalry everywhere trying to hunt us down.

Saw a crappton of shade on the guy in the official discord. A lot of people can’t stand him. As for the cavalry they hunt us down because we’re a threat to the golden order since we’re searching for the elden ring.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

Saw a crappton of shade on the guy in the official discord. A lot of people can’t stand him. As for the cavalry they hunt us down because we’re a threat to the golden order since we’re searching for the elden ring.

I think they might just be racist because he has horns.

[Senki]

I don't hate any of the demigods except for Godrick, he just seems like a pathetic person trying to act tough even though he's weak.

The others did some bad stuff but at least their personality and the way they act is still cool.

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by Senki:

I don't hate any of the demigods except for Godrick, he just seems like a pathetic person trying to act tough even though he's weak.

The others did some bad stuff but at least their personality and the way they act is still cool.

Oh absolutely all badasses except for renalla godrick and miquella. I’m arguing why morgotts the only one who hasn’t commited ware crimes or crimes against humanity, and is the only redeemable demigod.

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

Saw a crappton of shade on the guy in the official discord. A lot of people can’t stand him. As for the cavalry they hunt us down because we’re a threat to the golden order since we’re searching for the elden ring.

I think they might just be racist because he has horns.

Hashtag stop omen hate

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by mayhem523:

Who hates Morgott? He was always my favorite character out of the demigods.

I don't think of Miquella and Malenia as bad guys either. They mostly seem to have good intentions, especially Miquella who just wants everyone to thrive.

Lotta people on the official discord we’re explaining why they hated him and I didn’t get it.

As for miquella he is a traitor to the golden order but he did indeed have good intentions.

I love all the demigods except godrick, but morgott is the only redeemable one apart from maybe renalla and radahn if you took away the casualties they caused during wars

[CB]

my only problem with him is he's a huge sore loser after you beat him as margit

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by CB:

my only problem with him is he's a huge sore loser after you beat him as margit

Yeah I get that. But to be fair, he is a demigod getting beaten by a tarnished who just started their journey, so i can understand why he’s malding

[Alby]

This has really opened my eyes. Based Morgott.

#StopOmenHate

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

As for miquella he is a traitor to the golden order but he did indeed have good intentions.

I don't categorize anyone that turns their back on the golden order as automatically bad as I'm not convinced the Golden Order is all that good. Didn't they enslave and abuse the misbegotten, who should have been viewed as holy as they are of the crucible... same with the omens. I feel like there are a number of characters that decide the golden order isn't all its cracked up to be, including gold mask.

Regardless, I judge the characters on their intentions as much as their actions. Miquellas intention is that everyone flourishes, Malenia's intention is to protect Miquella, Morgott's is to stay true to his faith and earn his way back to grace, or at least try his hardest, through his actions and loyalty. I think these are the most respectable characters, the rest are pretty shady.

[Sayo]

I wouldn't blame Godwyn too much. Man got assassinated, cut him some slack.

[GloriousZote]

Originally posted by Sayo:

I wouldn't blame Godwyn too much. Man got assassinated, cut him some slack.

The worst part about Ranni is that Godwyn is basically just collateral damage as far as we know, nothing personal, she just needed a demigod to play the soul-death part of the rite, maybe she chose him because he was the most beloved, makes for some great chaos, something she could've really used given her plot.
I still think she has good intentions, just a dark path to take to achieve such.

That said, I might be reaching a bit far, but the ghost at castle Sol says this: "Lord Miquella, forgive me. The sun has not been swallowed. Our prayers were lacking. Your comrade remains soulless... I will never set my eyes upon it now. Your divine Haligtree"
People think that Miquella's soulless comrade is Godwyn. And I personally think that the eclipse itself might refer to something about the Age of Stars, maybe the Ranni ending might be able to save Godwyn from his soulless-life state.

[Sayo]

Originally posted by GloriousZote:

Originally posted by Sayo:

I wouldn't blame Godwyn too much. Man got assassinated, cut him some slack.

The worst part about Ranni is that Godwyn is basically just collateral damage as far as we know, nothing personal, she just needed a demigod to play the soul-death part of the rite, maybe she chose him because he was the most beloved, makes for some great chaos, something she could've really used given her plot.

She's evil.