Is Malenia fair?

[Clair de Lune.]

Title.

[Dr.Falcon]

Dodging waterfowl isn't the impossible thing a lot of people hype it up to be. Especially up close. I thought it was nearly impossible to dodge it. Learning to not run away but instead circle around her sides so that she misses you, then dodging accordingly, makes what was once the "run ender" to something you can predict and counter accordingly.

All of Melania's move's are not "unfair" in isolation. Much like how people had problems taking down Absolute Radiance in Hollow Knight, it's the fact she can cancel certain attacks into follow ups. Especially with heavier weapons, in phase two being able to cancel a hit into a kick that people using slower weapons won't be able to roll out of of. Thus healing her and giving a guise of "unfairness". If that same person used a faster weapon, they may be able to avoid the kick completely.

Melania is much like the harder bosses in Sekiro. People always exclaim that fight's in that game force you to play the way the developers intended. I've only gotten through a little more than halfway through my own playthrough of Sekiro, but it's true. Melania is the skill check that makes sure you are using and abusing all the mechanics presented to you.

[Faust Wither]

she is hard to beat but it can be cheesed too since she doesnt immune to bleed, frost and flinched when get it

[DorkDiva]

Shes just rotten and stinky, not too hard.

[Oobaneko]

She is fair, she is just different. A lot different. Three things everyone need to keep in mind while fights with her: never roll back of forward, count the tact, keep half of stamina bar for rolls. Beat her on 5th try with dual ultraswords.

[Hospuk]

Fair? No
Killable? Of course
F___able? Maybe

[AlmightyDunkle]

A good boss in the wrong game.

As Demon of Hatred was clearly designed to be fought in Dark Souls/Bloodborne;

Malenia was meant to be fought in Sekiro.

[Toad]

If you engage with all the new mechanics that Elden Ring introduced such as Spirit Ashes, Great Runes, Ashes of War etc, then she is fine. If you for whatever reason insist on limiting yourself by implementing your own self-directed rules and don't engage with those things, then yes she will definitely feel 'unfair'.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by AlmightyDunkle:

A good boss in the wrong game.

As Demon of Hatred was clearly designed to be fought in Dark Souls/Bloodborne;

Malenia was meant to be fought in Sekiro.

She's probably be manageable in Bloodborne too to be honest.

[Beer Expert 420]

Just have to figure out how to avoid the waterfowl dance and it's gg.

[DorkDiva]

Originally posted by Hospuk:

Fair? No
Killable? Of course
F___able? Maybe

Gross, imagine the smell, she is the queen of rot. Nasty.

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Originally posted by DorkDiva:

Originally posted by Hospuk:

Fair? No
Killable? Of course
F___able? Maybe

Gross, imagine the smell, she is the queen of rot. Nasty.:er_sad:

it's ok i just had nose surgery so i can't smell anything for a bit

[AlmightyDunkle]

Originally posted by DorkDiva:

Originally posted by Hospuk:

Fair? No
Killable? Of course
F___able? Maybe

Gross, imagine the smell, she is the queen of rot. Nasty.:er_sad:

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[Sabaithal]

Fair? Sure. Fun? Ehhhh...Too many gimmicks.

Trying to fight her coop is no fun either thanks to the ♥♥♥♥ connection problems.

[ZX119A]

Obviously everyone and their mother has beaten her at this point, but there's a lot about that fight that should leave you scratching your head, and for good reason. Here's a pretty good video breaking down how in some ways, she actually is unfair, though certainly not insurmountable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Vbsr3Ko7M

There's a tangentially related follow-up video titled "The value of consistency" that's worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQlOxjCqyAI

[Evoxrus XV]

I have beaten her about 20 times now solo, with ash summons, with other players and even at level 1. The answer is no. She breaks a couple of "rules" that the game has instated when fighting bosses, and that is not fair.