Elden ring and wukong difficulty

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

Seems like everyone struggling hard in wukong have been caught swimming naked when the tide went out.

People claiming to clear NG 7+ struggling on the earlier easier bosses of wukong, asked them if they used summons, bleed, shield and spear, and the answer is always yes to one of the 3.

That's the difference between actually beating the game and merely clearing content. If you used any of the 3, strongly recommend you restart. I personally restarted the dlc from scratch because I used bleed claws and killed renalla while she was transitioning to her 2nd phase. That was when I realised I wasn't beating the game - merely clearing content.

Beating bosses in wukong at a comfortable level. I do die, but I can always see a way out, and none are as difficult as Malenia, much less radahn.

[NOOBSURVIVES YT]

wukong has very few weapons and they are all staff. ER has hundreds of weapons shields and spells and multiple options on how you want to play.
Wukong is not open world which means you are stuck fighting a boss till you beat it with the same weapon over and over. You can't really compare them on difficulties you can make Elden ring as easy or as hard as you want. Heck just use a knife to beat the entire game.
Wukong will be dead in few months while people will still be playing Elden ring.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

More like they use his claim that he's not that good at videogames as a hard, indisputable proof that summons are for p*ssies.

Which is basically the same thing, but in a different wrapper.

Absolutely true.

I sometimes wonder if folks like that understand that they're really telling everyone they have nothing else in their life when they go that hard on the gatekeeping and elitism over a video game.

...and then I remember that they probably do understand that, and don't see it as a bad thing. Trying something else invites the possibility of failure, which in turn threatens to puncture the soap-bubble of egotism they've ensconced themselves within to avoid coping with the person in the mirror.

Or maybe they're just socially maladroit, and it's no deeper than that.

In either case, it's all a bit sad. Hilarious, but sad.

And there are those guys who then double down on their elitism and are proud of it, as if they were the guardians of a game series that, if you look at it by itself, clearly doesn't mirror their narrative at all... I mean FromSoft could have come out after Sekiro and stated: "Yes, only a small percentage of players completed the game, and we are proud of that! This is the difficulty we wanted! Git gud everyone". But they didn't. They were not happy about it. This, apart from uncomfortable facts like "jolly coop" in DS1, thriving coop communities in every Souls game, NPC summons and tons of "OP" items etc. designed and put in the games TO BE USED, is a very clear message on what their stance is on the whole topic. So, in the end, the poor gatekeepers are completely on their own, with nothing left but their own sense of "I beat it with a stick, I'm da man!". Let's gloss over the point that many of the same guys actually can't beat the game with a stick and immediately make a thread when a boss "is cheating *crying noises*"...

[Draknalor]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Originally posted by echo_ML:

This is the Elden Ring forum not the Wukong forum. I think you took a wrong turn.

Did you use bleed, summons, shield and spear or blasphemous blade? Why so sensitive? If you did, do not, under any circumstances, buy the wukong game. You will not be able to beat even the easier bosses.

I didn't take a wrong turn. Just pointing out the difference between actually beating elden ring and clearing content.

You must love me.

I used level 300, Bleed and Shield poke for some of the end game bosses of the base game.

https://youtu.be/58rbhNYoS7s?si=6LbN03A_Zm2Px2Xb

[vamirez]

Originally posted by Draknalor:

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Did you use bleed, summons, shield and spear or blasphemous blade? Why so sensitive? If you did, do not, under any circumstances, buy the wukong game. You will not be able to beat even the easier bosses.

I didn't take a wrong turn. Just pointing out the difference between actually beating elden ring and clearing content.

You must love me.

I used level 300, Bleed and Shield poke for the game bosses of the base game.

https://youtu.be/58rbhNYoS7s?si=6LbN03A_Zm2Px2Xb

It's funny and ridiculous how the list of banned practices keeps growing - and OP even forgot "spells" ;)

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

Originally posted by Draknalor:

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Did you use bleed, summons, shield and spear or blasphemous blade? Why so sensitive? If you did, do not, under any circumstances, buy the wukong game. You will not be able to beat even the easier bosses.

I didn't take a wrong turn. Just pointing out the difference between actually beating elden ring and clearing content.

You must love me.

I used level 300, Bleed and Shield poke for the game bosses of the base game.

https://youtu.be/58rbhNYoS7s?si=6LbN03A_Zm2Px2Xb

Did you feel proud of yourself?

You missed a fantastic boss fight. Instead of learning how she moves and the genius behind her moveset, all you did was to hold L1 and press r1. You even used mohgs spear... I could do what you did watching a show on another screen and eating chips. Why not just tape down the l1 button, or better still, use a macro to make it press to release....

All I can say is you missed out on so much, it's not maddening, it's just sad.

People like you play wukong, die to the first boss then complain how it's harder than elden ring NG 7.

Wukong is the objectively better game, as it filters the scrubs and only the ones who truly want to enjoy the combat loop stay and appreciate what the devs have done.

[Under there]

demons souls vs god of war difficulty

[lithops]

I don't want to waste my steam points on clown award for such low quality bait,instead i'm just gonna say this. let people play through the game how they want, neither you or anybody else have the right to judge about "the righteous fair playstyle", i've seen paralysed men palying with peculiar mouth controller and he in fact did beat final DLC boss.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Originally posted by Draknalor:

You must love me.

I used level 300, Bleed and Shield poke for the game bosses of the base game.

https://youtu.be/58rbhNYoS7s?si=6LbN03A_Zm2Px2Xb

Did you feel proud of yourself?

You missed a fantastic boss fight. Instead of learning how she moves and the genius behind her moveset, all you did was to hold L1 and press r1. You even used mohgs spear... I could do what you did watching a show on another screen and eating chips. Why not just tape down the l1 button, or better still, use a macro to make it press to release....

All I can say is you missed out on so much, it's not maddening, it's just sad.

People like you play wukong, die to the first boss then complain how it's harder than elden ring NG 7.

Wukong is the objectively better game, as it filters the scrubs and only the ones who truly want to enjoy the combat loop stay and appreciate what the devs have done.

If you honestly think Wukong is some kind of "G4m3r 5k!11z" filter, your estimation of difficulty shouldn't be taken seriously. I just dog walked (rimshot here, please) the giant wolf yaoguai who guards the black pill in the temple on my first go.

Thus far, the only thing that's managed to trouble me is the giant stone baby-man wandering around before the previously-mentioned boss battle.

I'm certain the game is going to get harder, but thus far the combat loop is "bait out attack, perfect dodge, deliver savage beating with monke stick, repeat." The trash mobs are exactly that: trash that gets swept aside without ever getting a lick in.

I'm enjoying the hell out of Wukong so far, but this is not a filter game at all up to this point. If anything, it's a bit like Lies of P if Geppeto offered some lube first.

[Rena Ichigawa]

Obvious troll is obvious

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Did you feel proud of yourself?

You missed a fantastic boss fight. Instead of learning how she moves and the genius behind her moveset, all you did was to hold L1 and press r1. You even used mohgs spear... I could do what you did watching a show on another screen and eating chips. Why not just tape down the l1 button, or better still, use a macro to make it press to release....

All I can say is you missed out on so much, it's not maddening, it's just sad.

People like you play wukong, die to the first boss then complain how it's harder than elden ring NG 7.

Wukong is the objectively better game, as it filters the scrubs and only the ones who truly want to enjoy the combat loop stay and appreciate what the devs have done.

If you honestly think Wukong is some kind of "G4m3r 5k!11z" filter, your estimation of difficulty shouldn't be taken seriously. I just dog walked (rimshot here, please) the giant wolf yaoguai who guards the black pill in the temple on my first go.

Thus far, the only thing that's managed to trouble me is the giant stone baby-man wandering around before the previously-mentioned boss battle.

I'm certain the game is going to get harder, but thus far the combat loop is "bait out attack, perfect dodge, deliver savage beating with monke stick, repeat." The trash mobs are exactly that: trash that gets swept aside without ever getting a lick in.

I'm enjoying the hell out of Wukong so far, but this is not a filter game at all up to this point. If anything, it's a bit like Lies of P if Geppeto offered some lube first.

You're not even at the hard part mate. There is no combat loop for chapter 1. Try what you said in chapter 2 tiger vanguard and you die straight away. Every chapter is exponentially harder than the last.

Normal mobs are killing me in chapter 3. 2 of the normal mobs in chapter 3 are harder than blue baby, and apparently chapter 3 is still baby mode. One of them requires 4 perfect dodges in a row or they'll roll catch you.

You will struggle to land even a single light attack after 10 perfect dodges on later bosses. That's how hard the game gets. The only way to cheese it is to literally cheat by modding it. There is no in game baby mode spell to rub your head and soothe your boo boo. You either master the combat loop or die.

Wukong is objectively far superior, because you can't spear and shield Malenia to death. That video was absolutely disgusting to see, ngl.

[Draknalor]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Originally posted by Draknalor:

You must love me.

I used level 300, Bleed and Shield poke for the game bosses of the base game.

https://youtu.be/58rbhNYoS7s?si=6LbN03A_Zm2Px2Xb

Did you feel proud of yourself?

You missed a fantastic boss fight. Instead of learning how she moves and the genius behind her moveset, all you did was to hold L1 and press r1. You even used mohgs spear... I could do what you did watching a show on another screen and eating chips. Why not just tape down the l1 button, or better still, use a macro to make it press to release....

All I can say is you missed out on so much, it's not maddening, it's just sad.

People like you play wukong, die to the first boss then complain how it's harder than elden ring NG 7.

Wukong is the objectively better game, as it filters the scrubs and only the ones who truly want to enjoy the combat loop stay and appreciate what the devs have done.

Not every one is as elite as you mate.

I still had to do plenty of tries to get everything right :)

But yes, getting level 300 from the rune giveaways was a bit of an overkill and i should probably do a normal playthrough at some point.

For elden beast i could not really shield poke tho, so for those 2 it was greatsword & Mimic.

As for Wukong, I don't have time to play it with New world of warcraft expansion, Season 5 Diablo 4, Blade & Soul daily train, Daily/weekly stuff for Cata & SoD + whatever else i feel like doing.

It's just too much to add wukong onto as well.

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

If anything, it's a bit like Lies of P if Geppeto offered some lube first.

I mean, he did. He let you murder the Mad Donkey and shower yourself in human blood. That's all the lube/oil/grease you need.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

If anything, it's a bit like Lies of P if Geppeto offered some lube first.

I mean, he did. He let you murder the Mad Donkey and shower yourself in human blood. That's all the lube/oil/grease you need.

Stop! Stop!

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[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

I mean, he did. He let you murder the Mad Donkey and shower yourself in human blood. That's all the lube/oil/grease you need.

Stop! Stop!

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[echo_ML]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

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