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And raiding the same place over and over again until there is nothing left to raid anymore is also a thing.
When there is someone left in the village, they would still need a house, no? Meaning they would also maintain it so they have a non-leaking roof over their heads. But as soon as they are taken away from that village, there is noone left to live inside of said house. Someone else who might have successfully hidden from the raiders realized that living in the village is a lost cause, barred up the entrance to their house and left.
If I'm not mistaken, it's implied that the removal of the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring by the Golden Order is reponsible for everyone in the Lands Between being in a state of undying, That applies to soldiers as well and also explains the facial expression some have.
edit: fixed a typo
There's a lot of stuff I'm kind of "meh" about in the DLC, but Marika is probably one of the more interesting elements though I still think that it feels, ha, grafted onto the narrative as we previously understood it.
As for the undeath thing - it's really strange. There are old people, there are crypts, there are tombs. Lack of rune of death also doesn't prevent averyone from dying. We die, everyone dies. I still don't quite understand the difference between death with rune and death without rune. I guess that without rune of death people have to be placed near the Erdtree roots or something? It's all stupid either way.
The very act they engaged in. It's making a correlation to real world politics, that's what George R.R. Martin's fantasy tends to do, for instance.
You're suggesting that all that happened in this mass killing was they went to a single point or village and just "partook of people, you know, in three houses." That's just a bit dense, especially when you consider what happens during an ethnic cleansing or what the desired motives typically are for removing an entire people.
"They just stuffed them in jars." I don't think it's helpful to fixate on the logistics of a single site that Marika herself clearly protected dearly in contrast to the rest of the state of the Realm of Shadow. It's implying that the Hornsent were "just there" and innocently went to a single point to jar some people. The Hornsent likely expanded their territory/influence throughout the "Jarring."
"That's just a bit dense"
I work with what I can gather in the game. You, on the other hand, are just making up nonexistent entities for the hornsent to kill, because "muh real world politics". It's From's job to properly write the lore and story, as well as to make the environment look convincing enough, so I wouldn't have to make ♥♥♥♥ up the same way you do.
"and innocently went"
I haven't said anything about innocence.
The fact that the Erdtree maintains a very similar practice, and the fact that throughout the game "lorewise" these religions engage in practices that strangely seem to make people disposable and the choices are typically arbitrary for the sake of maintaining a religious order... your only point of contention here is that "The Shamans were uniquely genocidable and jarrable" when everything is suggestive of the fact that it was needless and cruel and, frankly, it should probably raise the question of why there are still Warrior Jars when the super special and unique Shaman don't seem to be around anymore.
Almost like it was completely arbitrary.
"Lorewise."
You're being incredulous while obsessed with the plot of the game. You're the one applying real world logistics to the act of "getting a whole slew of people from three houses" then going "Well the lore" when someone points out what using that frame would necessitate thinking about.
Seriously.
The Shaman are taken, man woman and child, they are branded, beaten and whipped until the flesh is flayed from their bones, and stuffed into jars with the bodies of other people.
So that their wounded flesh will meld together with the other victims, in some ritual attempt to create a "saint."
Marika may be considered evil based on her other actions, but in this, she is hilariously justified.
This is a thing in real life as well, not only historically; depopulization of small towns still occur, but for reasons different from the one in Elden Ring.
tl;dr: there have been lots of different cultures in the Lands Between, and each one dealt differently with dealing with their deceased ones.
From what I remember (and bear with me, it's been a hot minute since I took a lore class), there have been several distinct cultures in the Lands Between, that each had their own way of dealing with burial or death.
In times way before the Erdtree was a thing, there were deathrites present (see items dscriptions surrounding Deathbirds) that quite literally burned the dead to ashes by using Ghostflame. From these ashes vengeful spiritis would arise (Ancient Death Rancor).
Eventually, the Erdtree would form (the original one, not the one you can see in game which is another verison of it entirely). The cutlure surrounding the Erdtree (which is also referret to as The Crucible I believe) would burry their dead and their most accomplished members of society (warriors, nobels, clerics, etc.) would receive a special burial called Erdtree Burial, as seen in some of the Catacombs you mentioned. They would usually be guarded by Erdtree Burial Watchdogs or in some cases Crucible Knights.
When the Golden Order was established, the Rune of Death would be plucked from the Elden Ring, which resulted in a state of undying for everyone who was resident in the Lands Between; this includes the Tarnished. Here undying means the state of dying and subsequently being resurrected, which is the case for the player character and most enemies you see ingame.
I just think that it's funny that we see numerous corpses comprising the structure of Elim Ilim and it's powerful image that suggests the very foundation of Marika's divinity is built on massive bloodshed, of course these corpses are Hornsent. But to round out the image you get the whole "cycle of violence" plot explanation. I feel like of all the things wrong with Marika/The Golden Order's actions, the idea that it was disproportionate just doesn't track.
"It was just three houses! It wasn't even that many!"
they are often completely disconnected to everything, composed of like 4-5 ruined shacks and that's it, no fields, no pantries, no main building, temple whatever no nothing
yes a lot of time has passed but they are still extremely barebone, tho the dlc does improve on that
i think that if they did better when it comes to overworld structures there'd be a lot less complaints about the world being "empty" and it would overall help with enviromental storytelling
Also, what Midra tried to do was as stupid as it was dangerous, but there really was not a single reason for the hornsent to punish him in the way they did.
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They're also all over the place in the LB, while in the SL you will find them mostly in frozen gaols.
"it should probably raise the question of why there are still Warrior Jars when the super special and unique Shaman don't seem to be around anymore."
Well, if we talk about the land of shadow, it's because shamans are in the jars, duh. They weren't just puffed out of existence by hornsent, they weren't outright killed, they were stuffed into the jars.
Also, I understand that there were more than 5 shamans, my complaint is that the From failded to properly convey the scale of hornsent's transgression. They've stuffed quite a few shamans into the jars, probably hundreds, maybe more. But let's not create unique entities out of thin air just to make hornsent look EXTRA bad. You still have to base your speculation on ingame clues, rather than just creating your own story because in the real world, during ethnic cleansing, a lot more people can be killed.
You're proving my point here, that you can use dead people instead of what the Hornsent did. It shows that the Jars can exist without torturing and dismembering people. Sooooo yes, "really." "Lorewise."
The whole issue is that the Hornsent didn't need to engage in what they did, but because they did so, they created the person Marika became. One of my points is that what the Hornsent chose to do was arbitrary and you outright admit that "Oh, the Erdtree makes Jars but they don't use people who are still alive and tortured."
There was nothing "special" about the Shamans other than they were people the Hornsent were going to use other than themselves.