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Clockwork Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:34am
How difficult can the DLC be if I don't use Scadutree fragment?
I consider myself to be a casual player. I haven't finished Mountaintops of the giant nor have I reached Farum Azula yet, but I finished Miquella's Haligtree. My rune level is 127 and I haven't used any summon yet. 60 Vigor.

I barely started the DLC area. I have yet to reach any major boss, but so far the random bosses (the furnace near the beginning, the guy with the big sword, master Yoda, the ghostflame dragon) seemed doable enough.

How much of a difficulty spike should I expect as I advance if I don't use any fragment, when compared to the base game?
Last edited by Clockwork; Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:36am
Originally posted by AdamWe:
I did a run with no Scadu blessings at RL125 (60 vig). All in all it was a fun run, but only if you have a high tolerance to frustration.

The first few areas (up to Rellana) of the DLC felt really good and were a good challenge.
However, from Messmer onwards most bosses and stronger enemies will two or even one shot you or murder you with a tiny combo if you let them.
So I ended up ignoring most standard enemies.

But this isn't as bad as it sounds, as the damage you dish out is still in the range of usable.
If you like to have very deadly dances with bosses where a single mistake might spell defeat, this is the run for you.
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VisMth Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:36am 
pretty hard. i have 16 and they buff my ar by like 600
Sham! Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:45am 
you'd need a very well optimized build since you'll lack dmg for bigger bosses and a lot of patience since you'll probably get shotted by just about anything
personally wouldnt
Professor Oak Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:52am 
You'll turn into a glass cannon while dealing ticklish damage
very hard but possible to beat most bosses i think u have kinda no chance against radahn though to be honest
Kyutaru Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Clockwork:
How much of a difficulty spike should I expect as I advance if I don't use any fragment, when compared to the base game?
In short, you will take double the damage and deal out half the damage.

The fragments will buff your damage by x2 and your damage taken to about x0.5 of normal.
Clockwork Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:58am 
Well it sounds like I'm quickly going to use all 20 fragments when I find them, then.
Dam Stark Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:58am 
You shouldn't skip them. It's part of leveling up. Also I'd get SL to around 150 first.
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AdamWe Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:59am 
I did a run with no Scadu blessings at RL125 (60 vig). All in all it was a fun run, but only if you have a high tolerance to frustration.

The first few areas (up to Rellana) of the DLC felt really good and were a good challenge.
However, from Messmer onwards most bosses and stronger enemies will two or even one shot you or murder you with a tiny combo if you let them.
So I ended up ignoring most standard enemies.

But this isn't as bad as it sounds, as the damage you dish out is still in the range of usable.
If you like to have very deadly dances with bosses where a single mistake might spell defeat, this is the run for you.
Funpire Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:59am 
Collect them. Hoard them. See how far you get. Apply as needed.
Toast Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:59am 
It will be like Mike Tyson fighting an infant.
Illaoi Bot Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
i have 6 fragments and i have just beaten the hippo and dealt good dmg i think i will be fine with 7-8 for mesmer and 10 for the endboss
Clockwork Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by AdamWe:
However, from Messmer onwards most bosses and stronger enemies will two or even one shot you or murder you with a tiny combo if you let them.
It doesn't sound so different from Death Rite Bird in base game, to be honest.
Laokon Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:04pm 
Watch ongbal on youtube, hes already doing it lvl 1 no hit
https://www.youtube.com/@_ONGBAL/videos
Last edited by Laokon; Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:05pm
Clockwork Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Laokon:
Watch ongbal on youtube, hes already doing it lvl 1 no hit
That wasn't my question though.
AdamWe Jun 29, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Clockwork:
Originally posted by AdamWe:
However, from Messmer onwards most bosses and stronger enemies will two or even one shot you or murder you with a tiny combo if you let them.
It doesn't sound so different from Death Rite Bird in base game, to be honest.

Pretty much. xD
However, keep in mind that DLC bosses have like double the HP of the base game bosses. So you have to persevere that much longer. This can be a good or bad thing, depending on how much you like the individual bosses.
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