Any evidence of ESG funding in Shadows of the Erdtree?

[Iscir (TOES)]

(EDIT: I found my answer the answer to my question. Goodbye FromSoft for the foreseeable future. RIP One of the greatest game developers of the last decade and a half. Explanation at the bottom.)

At risk of bringing down a mob on my head, torches, pitchforks, and all, I'll ask the question. Is there anything in the DLC at all, story wise especially, that smacks of ESG backing or funding on the project. My main reason for asking is that I recently found out that ESG backing is heavily behind ALL of Capcom's IP's at the moment and that caught me off guard pretty badly.

SPOILERS:
There are some people who have suggested that the Golden Order ending quest line ,which ultimately reveals that Radagon and Marika are the same person, is an instance of a story writing decision that was influenced by ESG funding. Such maintain that the revelation that Radagon and Marika are the same person could be seen as a suggestion of Transvestite or Transsexual paradigm.

While I personally do not subscribe to this suggestion, it does cause me to worry. That was a side quest that I know I didn't fully discover until my second/third play through. It's off the beaten path of what the average player base typically experiences. But it's precisely because it is so subtle that there is a chance that other quest lines of such subtle nature COULD potentially be slipped in containing messaging or suggestions of the tropes and themes that ESG endorsing backers like to strong arm developers into including in their games.

(For more on what ESG in games is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEE9OqJIlM0)

SO THE QUESTION IS;
In so many words, has anyone who has completed the DLC and it's side quests come across anything that could be an indicator of ESG?

90% of ESG backed content is EASY to spot...but keep in mind that it's likely that if ESG content IS in Elden Ring in any way shape or form it's probably quite subtle.

EXPLANATION OF TOP EDIT: (This vod from 30;50-34:34 summarizes everything I needed to know and confirms ALL of the fears that I had prior to the release of Erdtree and then some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-mY9CmHVWk

Also, listening to the rest of the review and factoring that against the mixed reviews status that the DLC held until very recently, how convenient for it to magically disappear at such a crucial moment in it's release time frame, it would appear that the game mechanics have not been improved. If anything the design choices seem to have had a degenerative affect on the experience of the game engine.

No worries. I picked up Lords of the Fallen instead, whose developers have MASSIVELY improved their game with every patch since it's troubled release last Fall, and am enjoying it thoroughly. It's like the better elements of DS2 combined with Bloodborne. I quite like it. Gives me hope that other developers will carry the genre forward with good design ideas and decisions without politicizing their games into an ideologue. Where FromSoft has fallen off the ever diligent indie scene and developers who prioritize game design above all else will move forward.)

[Lord Bob]

⛧Vinn⛧ původně napsal:

Really quiet in here all of a sudden. Nobody falling for the bait any longer? Lol

The agents of Nermal are trying to silence everyone, so the gospel of the Garf doesn't reach the masses.

[⛧Vinn⛧]

Lord Bob původně napsal:

⛧Vinn⛧ původně napsal:

Really quiet in here all of a sudden. Nobody falling for the bait any longer? Lol

The agents of Nermal are trying to silence everyone, so the gospel of the Garf doesn't reach the masses.

Those disgusting Nermies i swear :(

[Automaton-37467]

⛧Vinn⛧ původně napsal:

Lord Bob původně napsal:

The agents of Nermal are trying to silence everyone, so the gospel of the Garf doesn't reach the masses.

Those disgusting Nermies i swear :(

Thats a good term.
Im gonna call them that as well now.

[Alexandre]

Iscir (TOES) původně napsal:

BingusDingus původně napsal:

Cause heaven forbid people take funds given for development. Better these games never exist than to accept investors. /s

If it's to force behavior for the sake of some insane dogmatic political agenda at the hands of corporate oligarchs, then actually yes.

Games < Free Speech and Forum

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ)

Corporations are woke, we should revolt

[An Irate Walrus]

Alexandre původně napsal:

Iscir (TOES) původně napsal:

If it's to force behavior for the sake of some insane dogmatic political agenda at the hands of corporate oligarchs, then actually yes.

Games < Free Speech and Forum

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ)

Corporations are woke, we should revolt

Or just don't give your money to corporations and causes you don't support. Nobody's forcing you, my guy; you're only a victim of yourself if you're spending your money on things you object to.

[Automaton-37467]

Honey a new garf thread just dropped
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4511004055389933619/?tscn=1723554969

[GreyCatz]

So, have you guys reached Page 50, and if so, who won the fat-cat giveaway?

[Fineous🔥]

GreyCatz původně napsal:

So, have you guys reached Page 50, and if so, who won the fat-cat giveaway?

I already have a cat brother! Also encourage everyone to put a cat in their lifes, so go to the nearest animal shelter and ADOPT a four legged brother/sister today.

Anyways i can see this thread becoming 2 months old soon.....To think OP had the GALL to actually question the quality of some amazing games like the Thaumaturge or Nobody Wants to Die.....Christ. Do you have plans to grace us with your presence again in YOUR OWN thread, OP? Bro...Do you even lift or killed Radhan?

[smelly]

If you think some outside company is influencing the lore of Miyzaki's dream game then you must be more mentally ill than I realized. Please get some help or find someone you trust that can help you. Really do hope you get better and enjoy life instead of obsessing over fake info like this. There's so much fake information out there and people taking advantage of people who are suffering in the world to push their agendas so that the wealthy and powerful can further their goals by making all of us fight against each other instead of focusing on the real people in charge destroying our world. Remember divided we fall. People in power have been doing this for hundreds of years to us.

[An Irate Walrus]

Fineous🔥 původně napsal:

GreyCatz původně napsal:

So, have you guys reached Page 50, and if so, who won the fat-cat giveaway?

I already have a cat brother! Also encourage everyone to put a cat in their lifes, so go to the nearest animal shelter and ADOPT a four legged brother/sister today.

Anyways i can see this thread becoming 2 months old soon.....To think OP had the GALL to actually question the quality of some amazing games like the Thaumaturge or Nobody Wants to Die.....Christ. Do you have plans to grace us with your presence again in YOUR OWN thread, OP? Bro...Do you even lift or killed Radhan?

Seconding cat adoption. We found our current feline as a feral-born kitten, stuck in a tree and covered with sap (and *so many* parasites).

Twelve years on, he's a fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but he's *my* fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and I will one hundred percent eat a rap sheet for his furry bohunkus.

[DIO OVER HEAVEN]

You're...you're really bothered by things that aren't inherently bad. This conspiracy theorist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ really needs to go back to the cesspits. Steam ain't the place for it.

[An Irate Walrus]

Lavos99z původně napsal:

You're...you're really bothered by things that aren't inherently bad. This conspiracy theorist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ really needs to go back to the cesspits. Steam ain't the place for it.

But if we don't have crackpots, how will we ever be prepared for 1999 AD?!

[Automaton-37467]

An Irate Walrus původně napsal:

Fineous🔥 původně napsal:

I already have a cat brother! Also encourage everyone to put a cat in their lifes, so go to the nearest animal shelter and ADOPT a four legged brother/sister today.

Anyways i can see this thread becoming 2 months old soon.....To think OP had the GALL to actually question the quality of some amazing games like the Thaumaturge or Nobody Wants to Die.....Christ. Do you have plans to grace us with your presence again in YOUR OWN thread, OP? Bro...Do you even lift or killed Radhan?

Seconding cat adoption. We found our current feline as a feral-born kitten, stuck in a tree and covered with sap (and *so many* parasites).

Twelve years on, he's a fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but he's *my* fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and I will one hundred percent eat a rap sheet for his furry bohunkus.

Watch out tho, if the cat you’re planning to adopt is grey and keeps mentioning how cute it is… it might not be a cat but in fact NERMAL!!!

[An Irate Walrus]

Loathsome Dung Eater původně napsal:

An Irate Walrus původně napsal:

Seconding cat adoption. We found our current feline as a feral-born kitten, stuck in a tree and covered with sap (and *so many* parasites).

Twelve years on, he's a fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but he's *my* fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and I will one hundred percent eat a rap sheet for his furry bohunkus.

Watch out tho, if the cat you’re planning to adopt is grey and keeps mentioning how cute it is… it might not be a cat but in fact NERMAL!!!

My cat is grey with a white belly. He rejects your Orange Overlard.

He also has a little (in terms of age) sister and a little brother who are 65 and 104 lbs, respectively. If you want to bring your Orange Orthodoxy to this house, you're gonna have to get through the Dogs of War.

[Fineous🔥]

An Irate Walrus původně napsal:

Fineous🔥 původně napsal:

I already have a cat brother! Also encourage everyone to put a cat in their lifes, so go to the nearest animal shelter and ADOPT a four legged brother/sister today.

Anyways i can see this thread becoming 2 months old soon.....To think OP had the GALL to actually question the quality of some amazing games like the Thaumaturge or Nobody Wants to Die.....Christ. Do you have plans to grace us with your presence again in YOUR OWN thread, OP? Bro...Do you even lift or killed Radhan?

Seconding cat adoption. We found our current feline as a feral-born kitten, stuck in a tree and covered with sap (and *so many* parasites).

Twelve years on, he's a fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but he's *my* fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and I will one hundred percent eat a rap sheet for his furry bohunkus.

Now thats wholesome but please Walrus, keep your buddy weight under control (specially considering he is a senior now). My "marquis" after 8 years decided to stop being a cat and all he does is purring, running all around the house and climbing his giant ERDTREE! Hell....He is the real owner of the house, i spend like all the time in the studio while he naps elsewhere.

The family cat in my parents house (two years older than yours) had serious weight problems.....They completly ignored my advices about "teaching" that Couch Potato how to eat with moderation and just gorged him. Now he looks like a normal cat instead the Hindemburg....But yeah the older they get the more you have to control the weight.

Well now we seriously raised the level of the thread while talking about adopting cats....Im going to talk about Elden Ring just in case.

This is the only cat we have in Elden RIng

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3308528095

Just ONE CAT.....And they had nothing better to do to "label" them as dogs.....