Elden Trash Ring

[Asarjan [GER]]

Elden Ring is absolute trash! Anyone who programs such rubbish should rethink their career choice and rather read books to old people in retirement homes!!

For example, you are about to explore the map a little, you see humanoid creatures standing around a fire in a swamp, you ride there (because curiosity and all) and suddenly out of nowhere you are killed in a second by a swooping dragon. You lose all of your runes... which you need for trading and, more importantly, for your skills... and you can't get to them anymore because the dragon is sitting in front of it, like a gluttonous fatty in front of a fridge full of cream cakes -.-

Or you open a chest and find yourself in a kind of mine where much stronger enemies are hanging around... of course you can't fast travel from here... you die a few times, among other things when trying to get the previously lost runes back, but then because you don't have a chance anyway, google how to get out of there and start grinding runes again and again and again.

In this and similar ways I have already lost almost 100k runes to digital nirvana. It's not like you need it for skilling -.-'

The combat system is absolute trash ... while enemies and especially bosses can move and attack with great to extreme agility, the player character is more sluggish than a sloth. It's like trying to outrun a 600 HP Mustang with a 30 HP scooter.
If you get hit once by an opponent who is executing a combo, you can spam the space bar (for dodging) or right mouse button (for blocking) until your keyboard breaks... but it doesn't help. When it comes to the combat system and the general controls, it quickly becomes clear that this game was designed for consoles and gamepads. I play with keyboard and mouse.. so thanks for nothing developers!

In fights you basically need 3 hands, left hand W A S D, right hand mouse and you would need the third hand to scroll through your items with the arrow keys... which only works in one direction... i.e. you have 6 items ( Throwing knives, potions, etc.) equipped, you want to switch to the healing potion and press the down arrow key once too many, then you have to scroll through all the items again until you get to the healing potion.

There are no assignable quick slots, which, by the way, RPGs already had 20 years ago... the camera tends to get "stuck" somewhere in tighter areas, making precise control almost impossible.

I already mentioned it... Elden Ring is a grind game, but of the really nasty kind. You spend hours farming runes by slapping mobs, trying not to lose them and if you lose them, then you're busy trying to get them back. The story, if it exists, falls by the wayside.

A sensible level system and skill tree would have made more sense here. And what the hell is this crap that after every death and every time you crouch near a flame (e.g. to regenerate health and/or refill your potions) all, really all enemies (except bosses) immediately respawn?? Almost as if you hadn't just killed them 30 seconds ago -.-

Character creation... wow, even indie games 10 years ago did a better job here! Often you change one part of your face, e.g. the nose, and suddenly your whole face changes and you look like Golum in the hall of mirrors

How does this game get a rating of over 90% at Gamestar, Gamepro & Co? Did money flow to buy the ratings or what? I would rather play the first release version of Cyberpunk 2077 than waste another second on this Elder Ring garbage!

[Automaton-37467]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

but it fell short at the 80 hour mark.

80 hours? in your first playthrought? I took like 200...
Am I bad at game?
Haha people are writing so fast they wont see that i am bad at video game >:)

[vamirez]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

I'm just mad because I was really hoping that Elden Ring would be that one game that I can finally immerse myself in for thousands of hours, but it fell short at the 80 hour mark. I want a game with hundreds of NPCs, each having dozens of possible interactions, a combat system much more in depth than anything that currently exists (let's be real, Elden Ring combat is DS3 combat with some slight modifications), and enough lore to keep me busy for the rest of my life. I just expect so much from games because I know what's possible, yet game developers continue to under deliver. You're telling me that over 300 developers worked on Elden Ring for 5 years, and THIS is what they came up with? 5 years, and they reused assets like this is some kind of mobile game? Sorry, I just get so angry thinking about this game because of how good it could have been. How did they mess this up...

Where did you get the idea that Elden Ring would be a generic fantasy RPG instead of a soulslike? It was never advertised as such. And why do you blame FromSoft? And don't mix in cheap "asset re-use" trollbait...

[mpcgannon]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

I'm just mad because I was really hoping that Elden Ring would be that one game that I can finally immerse myself in for thousands of hours, but it fell short at the 80 hour mark. I want a game with hundreds of NPCs, each having dozens of possible interactions, a combat system much more in depth than anything that currently exists (let's be real, Elden Ring combat is DS3 combat with some slight modifications), and enough lore to keep me busy for the rest of my life. I just expect so much from games because I know what's possible, yet game developers continue to under deliver. You're telling me that over 300 developers worked on Elden Ring for 5 years, and THIS is what they came up with? 5 years, and they reused assets like this is some kind of mobile game? Sorry, I just get so angry thinking about this game because of how good it could have been. How did they mess this up...

You can't go from
"...Elden Ring would be that one game that I can finally immerse myself in for thousands of hours..."
to
"How did they mess this up..."
Simple. It's not made for you. No one makes games for trolls but a new trolls movie just came out!

[Alby]

Първоначално публикувано от Loathsome Dung Eater:

Haha people are writing so fast they wont see that i am bad at video game >:)

ay YO

[Automaton-37467]

Първоначално публикувано от Alby:

Първоначално публикувано от Loathsome Dung Eater:

Haha people are writing so fast they wont see that i am bad at video game >:)

ay YO

Ok hol up, just one second....

[Lord Griswold]

Първоначално публикувано от vamirez:

Where did you get the idea that Elden Ring would be a generic fantasy RPG instead of a soulslike? It was never advertised as such. And why do you blame FromSoft? And don't mix in cheap "asset re-use" trollbait...

I never expected it to be a generic fantasy game. I expected it to be an actual open world game with tons of content and NPCs and lore. An actual open world Souls-like. Basically the current state of Elden Ring but with 10x as many NPCs, quests, and dungeons, dynamic enemy spawns and AI (enemy movesets are so easily memorized it kind of kills the fun when you already know everything they can do. Where's the challenge?). And bruh you really think asset reuse is trollbait? I think it's stupid and lazy to reuse assets for what is supposed to be a brand new IP. The fact that FromSoft can reuse assets to such a degree and still get praise for making a "revolutionary" game just makes me sick.

Nothing they did was original besides making dark souls open world, but their open world is a pale shadow of what it should be. Open world doesn't mean "big, empty areas with static enemy spawns, static item spawns, and a world that barely even changes as you progress in the story". A true open world game has a dynamic world that you can change, with tons of different paths you can take. There really aren't many different paths to take in Elden Ring, and all you get is access to a few more items or a different short ending cutscene. Not really impressive or fun or immersive. The replayability is also bad because I already know where most items and enemies are because their spawns are the exact same in every playthrough. I really think Miyazaki took the phrase "open world" too literally and simply made the world big and open. You can go to pretty much any area right off the bat, and the world is obviously large in terms of area....but that's about it.

Ok I'm finally done arguing because you fanboys (and I mean that in the meanest way possible) can't argue in good faith. Rather than admit that this game has flaws, you insult me and say I'm the problem. Well, I'll just pull an uno reverse and say that all you fanboys are the problem because you have deluded yourselves into thinking that this game is god's greatest gift to mankind and you can't possibly imagine how it can be improved on. And you're so delusional that you can make up lore out of thin air and convince yourselves that your fantasies are actually canon and part of game, because you can't admit that the lore was clearly thought out in less than a day and even a middle school kid could come up with similar vague lore. Look at Skibidi Toilet and how many "lore videos" there are on that. Think that's an unfair comparison? Too bad because seeing people explain Elden Ring lore and making up stuff that was never stated, and then trying to say the lore is deep makes you look as goofy as the people who follow Skibidi Toilet lore. Anyone can make up deep lore on a subject. That doesn't make the canon lore deep.

And I'm not an Elder Scrolls fanboy. I hate the direction that Bethesda has taken their games lately, but I still can't deny that their games have objectively more content, EXPLICITLY STATED lore (not some BS made-up lore you guys force onto the game and then say it's always been part of the game), and paths to take with your character. I really hope Elder Scrolls 6 beats everyone's expectations after the fiasco that was Starfield.

And, yes,I think admitting that my favorite games have flaws means that I have integrity, unlike you Miyazaki worshippers. Go ahead and insult me because you can't admit that anything is wrong with your game. I can about the games I play, so that makes me objectively and morally better than the rest of you who lack critical thinking skills, at least when it comes to criticizing games.

I hope all of you suffer in the DLC because Miyazaki will surely reuse assets yet again and just give all the enemies 5x speed and 100x more health and all of you will froth at the mouth and praise him for making the "best boss fights ever" that are "overflowing with lore" even though all you'll be fighting are mute zombie enemies that will have 2-sentence- long, vague descriptions dedicated to them in whatever reskinned items ripped straight out of DS3 that you'll surely find.

[Lynfinity]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

-snip-

"TL;DR" version, for anyone interested:
https://youtu.be/Vokun6SRE80?si=bwhdkiM79a1tH_oQ

[Alby]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

Първоначално публикувано от vamirez:

Where did you get the idea that Elden Ring would be a generic fantasy RPG instead of a soulslike? It was never advertised as such. And why do you blame FromSoft? And don't mix in cheap "asset re-use" trollbait...

I never expected it to be a generic fantasy game. I expected it to be an actual open world game with tons of content and NPCs and lore. An actual open world Souls-like. Basically the current state of Elden Ring but with 10x as many NPCs, quests, and dungeons, dynamic enemy spawns and AI (enemy movesets are so easily memorized it kind of kills the fun when you already know everything they can do. Where's the challenge?). And bruh you really think asset reuse is trollbait? I think it's stupid and lazy to reuse assets for what is supposed to be a brand new IP. The fact that FromSoft can reuse assets to such a degree and still get praise for making a "revolutionary" game just makes me sick.

Nothing they did was original besides making dark souls open world, but their open world is a pale shadow of what it should be. Open world doesn't mean "big, empty areas with static enemy spawns, static item spawns, and a world that barely even changes as you progress in the story". A true open world game has a dynamic world that you can change, with tons of different paths you can take. There really aren't many different paths to take in Elden Ring, and all you get is access to a few more items or a different short ending cutscene. Not really impressive or fun or immersive. The replayability is also bad because I already know where most items and enemies are because their spawns are the exact same in every playthrough. I really think Miyazaki took the phrase "open world" too literally and simply made the world big and open. You can go to pretty much any area right off the bat, and the world is obviously large in terms of area....but that's about it.

Ok I'm finally done arguing because you fanboys (and I mean that in the meanest way possible) can't argue in good faith. Rather than admit that this game has flaws, you insult me and say I'm the problem. Well, I'll just pull an uno reverse and say that all you fanboys are the problem because you have deluded yourselves into thinking that this game is god's greatest gift to mankind and you can't possibly imagine how it can be improved on. And you're so delusional that you can make up lore out of thin air and convince yourselves that your fantasies are actually canon and part of game, because you can't admit that the lore was clearly thought out in less than a day and even a middle school kid could come up with similar vague lore. Look at Skibidi Toilet and how many "lore videos" there are on that. Think that's an unfair comparison? Too bad because seeing people explain Elden Ring lore and making up stuff that was never stated, and then trying to say the lore is deep makes you look as goofy as the people who follow Skibidi Toilet lore. Anyone can make up deep lore on a subject. That doesn't make the canon lore deep.

And I'm not an Elder Scrolls fanboy. I hate the direction that Bethesda has taken their games lately, but I still can't deny that their games have objectively more content, EXPLICITLY STATED lore (not some BS made-up lore you guys force onto the game and then say it's always been part of the game), and paths to take with your character. I really hope Elder Scrolls 6 beats everyone's expectations after the fiasco that was Starfield.

And, yes,I think admitting that my favorite games have flaws means that I have integrity, unlike you Miyazaki worshippers. Go ahead and insult me because you can't admit that anything is wrong with your game. I can about the games I play, so that makes me objectively and morally better than the rest of you who lack critical thinking skills, at least when it comes to criticizing games.

I hope all of you suffer in the DLC because Miyazaki will surely reuse assets yet again and just give all the enemies 5x speed and 100x more health and all of you will froth at the mouth and praise him for making the "best boss fights ever" that are "overflowing with lore" even though all you'll be fighting are mute zombie enemies that will have 2-sentence- long, vague descriptions dedicated to them in whatever reskinned items ripped straight out of DS3 that you'll surely find.

https://youtu.be/pr4GQSkm71w

[Lord Griswold]

Първоначално публикувано от Alby:

https://youtu.be/pr4GQSkm71w

I'm actually impressed that you made a whole video with my post in it lol. Respect

[EF_Neo1st]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

Първоначално публикувано от EF_Neo1st:

Calls others as fanboys.
Use the game he is fanboy of (Elder Scrolls) as benchmark for what is good.
Continues to call others as fanboys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAKnbIr6TE

At least I have the moral integrity and brainpower to realize that even my favorite game franchise has many flaws. Never said that Elder Scrolls is perfect, but it certainly does open world better than Elden Ring. And can you guys stop saying Elden Ring lore is deep? If you compiled every line of dialog in Elden Ring and every item description and compared it to every line of dialog and all thr text in all the bookes from just ONE of the most recent Elder Scrolls Games, you'd see that the sheer amount of lore in that Elder Scrolls game dwarfs what Elden Ring has. I'm not buying this "less is more attitude" about Elden Ring lore. There's only so much speculation you can pull out of your butt to flesh out the sparse lore of Elden Ring. Like you guys could be given an item that says "The", and then all the lore-obsessed players would come up with some 3 book long epic worth of lore that never was even talked about in game and then say Elden Ring is so ddep. It's only deep because you make up your own lore. Go read The 36 Lessons of Vivec and trll me again how deep Elden Ring lore is and how 2-sentence item descriptions are better than entire books worth of stories and lore. Smh

We dont say ER is perfect but calling "souls-like storyteling way and gameplay mechanics" as flaws is the same as saying Elder Scrolls is flawed because you are a fan of hack&slash or a souls-like fan and using DMC as example of how ES should be or using DS3 as example of how ES should be ... it is fanvoyism 101 but reversed and those that dont agree with your points are not fanboys, are players that like and accept the genre as it is.

If you still can not see you are the ES fanboy bragging about your game being superior and using what is basic and expected concepts of a souls-like game as examples of flaws because you wanted it to be ES (as ypu used ES as example of how it should be) ... then I dont know where you have your moral and integrity.

[vamirez]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord Griswold:

Go ahead and insult me because you can't admit that anything is wrong with your game. I can about the games I play, so that makes me objectively and morally better than the rest of you who lack critical thinking skills

Oh, trust me, I would. But this isn't Vietnam, Donny, we have rules here.

Anyway, that essay you pushed out there is such a stream of complete rage-diarrhea that there's basically nothing to add. Any discussion with you was and is a waste of time, and you have exposed the full extent of your bullcrap takes and toxic character for everyone to see. My work here is done.

[vapechimp]

One of the best posts OP I have read for a while

[Automaton-37467]

Първоначално публикувано от vapechimp:

One of the best posts OP I have read for a while

vapechimp has entered the arena

[mpcgannon]

Първоначално публикувано от Asarjan GER:

Elden Ring is absolute trash! Anyone who programs such rubbish should rethink their career choice and rather read books to old people in retirement homes!!
...

Oh yeah big guy? Is this the play? Is this what you would do? Think about how this sold. Think about $ bonuses $ and this gold star on your resume.

Sorry team, I suck. I was scouring the steam forums for constructive criticism and it was promptly brought to my attention, by a professionally sound and reasonable source, that my technical skills need tremendous improvement. I will be giving my notice, effective immediately.

[Lord Griswold]

Първоначално публикувано от vamirez:

Oh, trust me, I would. But this isn't Vietnam, Donny, we have rules here.

Anyway, that essay you pushed out there is such a stream of complete rage-diarrhea that there's basically nothing to add. Any discussion with you was and is a waste of time, and you have exposed the full extent of your bullcrap takes and toxic character for everyone to see. My work here is done.

No u