Poise Questions

[Stepout]

I have a longsword & shield and when I guard-counter a white wolf, after I block the wolf's initial attack and hit R2 for the counter, the wolf is so fast that it attacks me before the counter hits so it interrupts my attack. Basically it seems guard-countering fast enemies is pointless with my current character.

Is having more poise the answer to fix this? Because I thought poise was some invisible bar that you do damage to on enemies and if you do enough damage it makes them break their stance. Does poise have to do with both not being interrupted and not having your stance broken?

I'm not even sure if "break stance" is the technical term, I feel like I've heard it called different things.

[nfinite.recursion]

No.

The solution is to keep blocking through the 2 or 3 hit combo and then use the Guard Counter.

Though yes, more poise stops you from flinching and being interrupted by enemy attacks.

Stance is an invisible meter that enemies have where they "fall down" and give you the opportunity to perform a critical hit or lay on some more damage.

[Stepout]

Ursprungligen skrivet av nfinite.recursion:

The solution is to keep blocking through the 2 or 3 hit combo and then use the Guard Counter.

That's a really good point, thanks. So does poise affect this invisible stance meter as well? If not, what does?

[nfinite.recursion]

Armor and a couple talismans can increase your poise.

[Vargas Erikson]

Aim for 51 poise

[Honk1]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av nfinite.recursion:

The solution is to keep blocking through the 2 or 3 hit combo and then use the Guard Counter.

That's a really good point, thanks. So does poise affect this invisible stance meter as well? If not, what does?

If I understand you correctly, you mean the enemies invisible stance meter. This is not affected by your poise, your poise only affects whether you flinch and get interrupted from attacks (as nfinite.recursion already said). In PVE, attacks will generally either do 50 or 100 or (more than you can take) poise damage to you, so having 51 or 101 poise are the relevant thresholds in PVE to take a hit without being interrupted.

The stance damage you deal to enemies depends on the weapon and attack type you use, with charged attacks, guard counters and some weapon arts being particularly effective and heavier weapon categories mostly dealing more stance damage than lighter weapon categories.

[Stepout]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Honk1:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Stepout:

That's a really good point, thanks. So does poise affect this invisible stance meter as well? If not, what does?

If I understand you correctly, you mean the enemies invisible stance meter. This is not affected by your poise, your poise only affects whether you flinch and get interrupted from attacks (as nfinite.recursion already said). In PVE, attacks will generally either do 50 or 100 or (more than you can take) poise damage to you, so having 51 or 101 poise are the relevant thresholds in PVE to take a hit without being interrupted.

The stance damage you deal to enemies depends on the weapon and attack type you use, with charged attacks, guard counters and some weapon arts being particularly effective and heavier weapon categories mostly dealing more stance damage than lighter weapon categories.

So do the players have this invisible stance meter as well? If so, I was wondering what affects how big this meter is.

[Honk1]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Stepout:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Honk1:

If I understand you correctly, you mean the enemies invisible stance meter. This is not affected by your poise, your poise only affects whether you flinch and get interrupted from attacks (as nfinite.recursion already said). In PVE, attacks will generally either do 50 or 100 or (more than you can take) poise damage to you, so having 51 or 101 poise are the relevant thresholds in PVE to take a hit without being interrupted.

The stance damage you deal to enemies depends on the weapon and attack type you use, with charged attacks, guard counters and some weapon arts being particularly effective and heavier weapon categories mostly dealing more stance damage than lighter weapon categories.

So do the players have this invisible stance meter as well? If so, I was wondering what affects how big this meter is.

No, as a player, you only have a poise bar, no stance bar. You can be backstabbed or be riposted after a parry, but apart from that, you cannot be stance broken.

EDIT: I forgot that you can be guard broken if you block with insufficient stamina, see Lord Bob's response.

[Lord Bob]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Honk1:

If I understand you correctly, you mean the enemies invisible stance meter. This is not affected by your poise, your poise only affects whether you flinch and get interrupted from attacks (as nfinite.recursion already said). In PVE, attacks will generally either do 50 or 100 or (more than you can take) poise damage to you, so having 51 or 101 poise are the relevant thresholds in PVE to take a hit without being interrupted.

The stance damage you deal to enemies depends on the weapon and attack type you use, with charged attacks, guard counters and some weapon arts being particularly effective and heavier weapon categories mostly dealing more stance damage than lighter weapon categories.

So do the players have this invisible stance meter as well? If so, I was wondering what affects how big this meter is.

No, players don't have this kind of stance meter.

The only way to get guard broken is by blocking while having insufficient stamina to block the hit, which will leave you open to a riposte in pvp and more damage dealt by the pve.

[nfinite.recursion]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Stepout:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Honk1:

If I understand you correctly, you mean the enemies invisible stance meter. This is not affected by your poise, your poise only affects whether you flinch and get interrupted from attacks (as nfinite.recursion already said). In PVE, attacks will generally either do 50 or 100 or (more than you can take) poise damage to you, so having 51 or 101 poise are the relevant thresholds in PVE to take a hit without being interrupted.

The stance damage you deal to enemies depends on the weapon and attack type you use, with charged attacks, guard counters and some weapon arts being particularly effective and heavier weapon categories mostly dealing more stance damage than lighter weapon categories.

So do the players have this invisible stance meter as well? If so, I was wondering what affects how big this meter is.

No.

There are, however some human enemies in the game (usually NPC invaders) with shields that can parry your attacks and open you up to a critical attack. While similar to having your stance broken, it's not the same in that it's not due to a "Stance Meter" being filled, rather it's a unique status that you are placed into when parried.

[Sephylon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av nfinite.recursion:

There are, however some human enemies in the game (usually NPC invaders) with shields that can parry your attacks and open you up to a critical attack.

Moongrum flashbacks, good times

[nfinite.recursion]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sephylon:

Ursprungligen skrivet av nfinite.recursion:

There are, however some human enemies in the game (usually NPC invaders) with shields that can parry your attacks and open you up to a critical attack.

Moongrum flashbacks, good times

PTSD in my case.