I was a fool

[achilleas_demetriou]

I didnt understand the ways of the o flame incantation

[Sephylon]

magic is better anyway

[Velesianus]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

I didnt understand the ways of the o flame incantation

You're probably already aware but there are five different buffs you can stack on to O Flame at the same time, turning it into a highly spammable and low cost nuke.

Fromsoft gave pyromancers plenty of love in Elden Ring lol .

Originally posted by Sephylon:

magic is better anyway

I've spent hundreds of hours playing both mage and priest builds in Elden Ring and would politely disagree.

There's a very common misconception, mostly among newer and more casual players, that INT casters deal more damage than FTH casters. It likely comes from them hearing that magic damage is far superior to holy damage, which it usually is.

This is irrelevant though since FTH casters generally deal physical or elemental damage and almost never deal holy damage.

The other factor here is the learning curve. It just takes a lot longer to learn how to make and use pure incant builds compared to sorcery ones so they seem weaker at first.

edit: INT vs FTH scaled AoW's is a different story though. Faith kind of got let down in that department with only a couple of S tier weapons.

[Sephylon]

Originally posted by Velesianus:

Originally posted by Sephylon:

magic is better anyway

I've spent hundred of hours playing both mage and priest builds in Elden Ring and would politely disagree.

There's a very common misconception, mostly among newer and more casual players, that INT casters deal more damage than FTH casters. It likely comes from them hearing that magic damage is far superior to holy damage, which it usually is.

No it comes from the fact that we have laser swords, and can even use said laser swords as projectiles

[Velesianus]

Originally posted by Sephylon:

No it comes from the fact that we have laser swords, and can even use said laser swords as projectiles

Yeah magic definitely has the better AoW's. Death's poker alone would make that true. I still miss patch 1.0 hoarfrost.

Unless you mean pure sorcery ones like Adula's Moonblade or Carian GS. I mean, those are A/S tier depending on the build and a ton of fun to use but they're not going to be 1 cycling bosses unless you're vastly over-leveled.

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Sephylon:

No it comes from the fact that we have laser swords, and can even use said laser swords as projectiles

Chucking bolts of ancient lightning is cooler anyway.

[Despiser]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

I didnt understand the ways of the o flame incantation

I still am. Old habits are hard to break.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Originally posted by Sephylon:

No it comes from the fact that we have laser swords, and can even use said laser swords as projectiles

Chucking bolts of ancient lightning is cooler anyway.

Or throwing fireballs like they're actual balls.

[justfaded]

Isn't catch flame still better than o flame? On a side note, surge o flame is really good in pve. More importantly it looks badass.

[Lunar Fang]

Originally posted by Sephylon:

magic is better anyway

Faith is always better than magic.