Meta in pvp/pve

[Dylan1565]

am i going crazy or is literally like 90% of peoples builds bleed builds lol been invading for like an hour or two and thats all ive been facing is bleed builds

[Sparhawk 59]

Its about the strongest build in the game so not surprised and it used to be stronger at launch so think yourself lucky they did nerf it a lot

[Autumn]

Bleed is super popular, especially since it works well with a lot of other strong weapons and gear.

[psheue]

It's strong and it looks cool.

[Forest]

Once again showing DS2 was ahead of it’s time having bleed be a flat 200 damage and a stamina recovery debuff.

[Zogtar]

Maybe buff lightning/poison while we're at it.

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by Forest:

Once again showing DS2 was ahead of it’s time having bleed be a flat 200 damage and a stamina recovery debuff.

Also no instant rebleeding, as the bleed bar slowly had to decrease until it could be triggered once more.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Originally posted by Forest:

Once again showing DS2 was ahead of it’s time having bleed be a flat 200 damage and a stamina recovery debuff.

Also no instant rebleeding, as the bleed bar slowly had to decrease until it could be triggered once more.

Adding that would probably balance bleed out.

[Angel]

I swear I've seen this thread and some of these exact same replies before

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by Angel:

I swear I've seen this thread and some of these exact same replies before

Yeah, I feel that way a lot of the time too. Once the DLC drops there'll be some new content in the threads. Since we're all bots living in a mathematic theory.

[Turt]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Originally posted by Forest:

Once again showing DS2 was ahead of it’s time having bleed be a flat 200 damage and a stamina recovery debuff.

Also no instant rebleeding, as the bleed bar slowly had to decrease until it could be triggered once more.

It also reduced your agility which in turn could lower your iframes. Combined with the slow movement speed and stamina recovery it was actually pretty nasty. Just in a different way compared to ER. I miss it

[Koala 4peace]

Í remember that playing Day of Defeat 3.1 a friend and i connected to a server which had one of those maps with brits instead of yankees. Every one but me was a rifleman; so either SMLE or Mauser K98. And everyone was just prone, moving slowly, in the most boring way to play possible (for me).

Anyway, people sticking to the META is as old as multiplayer in videogames.

[Dylan1565]

Originally posted by Zogtar:

Originally posted by Angel:

I swear I've seen this thread and some of these exact same replies before

Yeah, I feel that way a lot of the time too. Once the DLC drops there'll be some new content in the threads. Since we're all bots living in a mathematic theory.

Lmao this is true it’s just funny sometimes with this meta the worst is the guys in the duel arena using a bleed build and losing to a normal dex build and I get hate mail got some pretty bad messages a couple times lol kept spamming rob so I switched to dual pikes

[Autumn]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Also no instant rebleeding, as the bleed bar slowly had to decrease until it could be triggered once more.

Adding that would probably balance bleed out.

Bleed as a build is already pretty balanced. Just including bleed isn't a bleed build, you can stuff bleed into anything. Dedicated builds to causing bleed and getting the most out of it aren't overwhelmingly strong compared to other builds.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Toast:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Adding that would probably balance bleed out.

Bleed as a build is already pretty balanced. Just including bleed isn't a bleed build, you can stuff bleed into anything. Dedicated builds to causing bleed and getting the most out of it aren't overwhelmingly strong compared to other builds.

And somewhat monotonous. There's the strategy, and deviating from that would render it a bit pointless to have invested heavily into the build. That's where I think Cold shines in versatility, as an alternative - the bonus damage inflicted on a chilled target is glorious

[Autumn]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Originally posted by Toast:

Bleed as a build is already pretty balanced. Just including bleed isn't a bleed build, you can stuff bleed into anything. Dedicated builds to causing bleed and getting the most out of it aren't overwhelmingly strong compared to other builds.

And somewhat monotonous. There's the strategy, and deviating from that would render it a bit pointless to have invested heavily into the build. That's where I think Cold shines in versatility, as an alternative - the bonus damage inflicted on a chilled target is glorious

I mean, bleed is monotonous in the same way physical damage is monotonous. Builds tend to have it like they tend to have physical, and sometimes you decide to focus on it like you might focus on just hitting ♥♥♥♥ really hard for physical. You don't actually have to invest at all into it, because so many weapons just come with it.

I like using Winged Scythe in PVP, for example, and that comes with bleed I haven't invested a thing into because it's just there as the occasional extra damage. I've done proper bleed builds in the past and they feel totally different in spite of both including bleed damage, just like they'd both also feel different from a mage build that also has a sword for a bit of physical damage if someone gets too close.