4 Player co-op with Seamless Co-op mod on Nexus. How will loot work?

[stashinsome]

Me and 4 friends are thinking about picking this up to play fully in co-op. How would loot work in 4 player co-op? Will each person get their own unique drops from boss fights and or mobs? Or are we sharing the loot that the Host player gets?

We are going to use this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/510

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Lord Bob a écrit :

Multiplayer works like this:
You as a host can summon in cooperators. As soon as you do that, you open your world up for players called invaders, whose goal is to defeat you.

Invaders leave your world when they die or when they defeat you, cooperators leave your world as soon as your area boss is dead (defeating said boss is a cooperators main goal).

I would like to add to this invaders leave game automatically
if host passes boss fog and enters boss arena
or field boss (overworld boss) is defeated.

[Lord Bob]

Irot Noot a écrit :

Lord Bob a écrit :

I didn't, I said please let them make up their mind on their own.

Jeez, you act like he is lord and prince of determining what others do. He isnt deciding for anyone, just providing info, info you apparently dont like him sharing.

That's not at all what I was trying to point out.

I was pointing out that Kalameet was misrepresenting Ay Tone's post:

Kalameet a écrit :

stashinsome a écrit :

Ay Tone a écrit :

You and your friends should play the game correctly. It will feel much more rewarding.

So multiplayer in the game is already pretty good without mods?

No, they mean you're not supposed to have that kind of full co-op that works the way Sealess co-op mod makes it work.

Then they goes on to post about invasions being basically unwanted pvp, which is his own opinion about the matter and, by all means, he is free to express it.

I have played the game using seamless coop more than once and will go on to so in the future, given the opportunity.
On some days I switch between the vanilla and the modded game, should I not feel like playing multiplayer.
However, I mostly play vanilla Elden Ring making use of it's multiplayer feature.

I didn't act like he is lord and prince of determining what others do, once again.
All I did, was asking him kindly to let others make up their mind on their own, as Kalameet has a history of having to enforce his opinion about invasions onto others.
If Kalameet doesn't enjoy invasions, fine. If he goes on to rage about them, also fine.

But purposefully going out of your way to make sure new players will not even have the chance to play the game as is, because you at some point didn't enjoy something, is absolutely not fine.

Also, kindly point out the info I seemingly didn't want Kalameet to share.

Edit: typos

[Lord Bob]

Sc0rpiTr0n a écrit :

Lord Bob a écrit :

Multiplayer works like this:
You as a host can summon in cooperators. As soon as you do that, you open your world up for players called invaders, whose goal is to defeat you.

Invaders leave your world when they die or when they defeat you, cooperators leave your world as soon as your area boss is dead (defeating said boss is a cooperators main goal).

I would like to add to this invaders leave game automatically
if host passes boss fog and enters boss arena
or field boss (overworld boss) is defeated.

True, that one slipped my mind. Thanks for adding it.

[An Irate Walrus]

Dragonirian a écrit :

You will face constant ussies like desyncs, crashes, black screens and people calling you out for not facing invasions while in coop.

By "people," Dragonirian means he'll call you out. He's a majority of one.

[Kalameet]

Lord Bob a écrit :

Kalameet a écrit :

No, they mean you're not supposed to have that kind of full co-op that works the way Sealess co-op mod makes it work.

Then they goes on to post about invasions being basically unwanted pvp, which is his own opinion about the matter and, by all means, he is free to express it.

All I did, was asking him kindly to let others make up their mind on their own, as Kalameet has a history of having to enforce his opinion about invasions onto others.
If Kalameet doesn't enjoy invasions, fine. If he goes on to rage about them, also fine.

Just to make things clear, it wasn't my intention to "enforce my vision" on OP. I couldn't care less what OP will/won't do in his game.
I only gave OP hints on a few responses that got posted here. See below.

Ay Tone a écrit :

You and your friends should play the game correctly. It will feel much more rewarding.

OP clearly said he wants to play ER with 3 Friends in full co-op. Vanilla ER doesn't allow that. Vanilla ER also enforces PvP on co-op sessions, which may not be a desiderable behavior.
Edited.

Lord Bob a écrit :

All I did, was asking him kindly to let others make up their mind on their own, as Kalameet has a history of having to enforce his opinion about invasions onto others.
If Kalameet doesn't enjoy invasions, fine. If he goes on to rage about them, also fine.

It's kind of amusing the hivemind is starting to see me as a Threat in these forums

[Alby]

Kalameet a écrit :

It's kind of amusing the hivemind is starting to see me as a Threat in these forums

Lol! Nobody thinks you're a threat, Kalamari. It's just weird how someone who suppposedly hates the souls community SOOO MUCH is constantly posting here telling everybody how much he hates the souls community SOOO MUCH.

You must be one of those people who protest "Meat is Murder" at BBQ restaurants but sneaks in a few ribs when nobody is looking.

That, or the rent is ALWAYS free. We love you too, stop playing so hard to get. ;)

[Autumn]

stashinsome a écrit :

Ay Tone a écrit :

You and your friends should play the game correctly. It will feel much more rewarding.

So multiplayer in the game is already pretty good without mods?

It's three players maximum, so that'll already be an issue for you. Each session of co-op is locked into a region or dungeon and ends the moment the main boss is killed, and you can't leave that region until the host ends it manually, dies, or kills said boss. Loot isn't shared either, and if a player dies they're kicked. If the host dies, everyone's kicked. If you really want to play Elden Ring start to finish coop you'll definitely want the mod.

That being said, base-game coop is also wildly fun and I do recommend giving the vanilla game a shot too. You join a host and possibly another player, and get a quick 3-player run to get the host through the region they're at. You might get interrupted by another mode, this being player "invaders" who enter with the goal of killing the host and are allied with the regular enemies. You beat them by either killing them or getting through a boss door away from them, the former giving you a nice reward. Killing the boss gets you that same reward.

In the mod, boss loot drops for everyone, everyone can pick things up off the ground, you respawn at a grace when you die instead of being kicked, and there's no invaders (who will seem way too common if you're just trying to have a slow-paced game with friends - coop assumes you're actively trying to beat the area, and they'll be pretty regular so you're likely to get one or even two before you do it). Player count is infinite, and you can turn on PVP between those players if you want. It's also seamless, meaning there's no being locked into a region until you kill the boss or anything like that. It's pretty close to Skyrim Together if you have any experience with that.

[psheue]

Alby a écrit :

Kalameet a écrit :

It's kind of amusing the hivemind is starting to see me as a Threat in these forums

Lol! Nobody thinks you're a threat, Kalamari. It's just weird how someone who suppposedly hates the souls community SOOO MUCH is constantly posting here telling everybody how much he hates the souls community SOOO MUCH.

You must be one of those people who protest "Meat is Murder" at BBQ restaurants but sneaks in a few ribs when nobody is looking.

That, or the rent is ALWAYS free. We love you too, stop playing so hard to get. ;)

I always read Kalameet's posts as REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

OP, you can't play with 3 friends in vanilla and the seamless mod can break the game in hilarious ways. Pick your poison.

What I would do in your position, if I wanted vanilla, would be to coop with two and summon the other one as red. Red tries to stop the coop party.

[Remus12]

The Co-Op mod in my opinion is more fun if you have dedicated friends. Benefit is you can go through the whole game together. Yeah sometimes it desynces but you can just reload and invite everyone back.

Also one other bonus, everyone gets their full HP/MP pots to use instead of one half of their capacity when they join you in Vanilla co-op.

If you just want to enjoy the game and not deal with PvP or people having to reconnect during every area. Just do the mod. Have fun the way you want to and enjoy the game.

[Autumn]

psheue a écrit :

Alby a écrit :

Lol! Nobody thinks you're a threat, Kalamari. It's just weird how someone who suppposedly hates the souls community SOOO MUCH is constantly posting here telling everybody how much he hates the souls community SOOO MUCH.

You must be one of those people who protest "Meat is Murder" at BBQ restaurants but sneaks in a few ribs when nobody is looking.

That, or the rent is ALWAYS free. We love you too, stop playing so hard to get. ;)

I always read Kalameet's posts as REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

OP, you can't play with 3 friends in vanilla and the seamless mod can break the game in hilarious ways. Pick your poison.

What I would do in your position, if I wanted vanilla, would be to coop with two and summon the other one as red. Red tries to stop the coop party.

Honestly for that I'd still use seamless. With two summons you're still going to get a second invader every so often, and you'll still have to deal with constant resummons and walls.

[GoreTiger]

Seamless coop is the superior way to play this game with your friends. It has bugs here and there, but it makes the game so much more fun

[psheue]

Toast a écrit :

psheue a écrit :

I always read Kalameet's posts as REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

OP, you can't play with 3 friends in vanilla and the seamless mod can break the game in hilarious ways. Pick your poison.

What I would do in your position, if I wanted vanilla, would be to coop with two and summon the other one as red. Red tries to stop the coop party.

Honestly for that I'd still use seamless. With two summons you're still going to get a second invader every so often, and you'll still have to deal with constant resummons and walls.

There's 4 players in OP's group, so it would be three phantoms plus the summoned red. If they're only getting the game for the full coop run then yeah, seamless would be the better choice. They do need to realize that they're gonna be playing a completely different game, tho. My seamless run was a comedy game, haha; it was all lulz while roflstomping everything on our way.

[Eoncide]

Use the mod there are invaders that are cheating. You will not have a good experience against that. Its the same game just without the hassle to summon everytime you need to defeat the boss from your friends world. it if was the year it released i would have suggested you played without the mod but due to the current situation go for it.

[Koala 4peace]

I think it's best to keep this short. If you people are planning on picking this game just for the Co-op, don't bother. The Co-op mode was added for kicks. If you are planning on using the mod, keep in mind that it may not work properly.

This game is worth for the solo play mainly, but as a co-op game with friends, and not random people, the experience is underwhelming.

[EmperorC3]

Seamless coop is fantastic, I highly recommend it. Vanilla co op is meant for a way to summon a friend to help you with a boss, and is extremely restrictive even inside that scope.

If you want to do a full playthrough with friends, just use seamless. Thats why it was made. Because vanilla cannot give you that experience.