Vigor, Endurance or Strength?

[It is my CAT]

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[Silverlight]

I beat this game with like 20 vigor in my first play through.

Everyone says go vigor.

I say go and get lightroll and stop tanking hits

[Alby]

Escrito originalmente por Silverlight:

I beat this game with like 20 vigor in my first play through.

Everyone says go vigor.

I say go and get lightroll and stop tanking hits

"git gud" comes in many forms my friend. that's only 1 of 6 different variations

[Silverlight]

Escrito originalmente por Alby:

Escrito originalmente por Silverlight:

I beat this game with like 20 vigor in my first play through.

Everyone says go vigor.

I say go and get lightroll and stop tanking hits

"git gud" comes in many forms my friend. that's only 1 of 6 different variations :mimir_lol:

I had to beat the fire giant without taking a hit because it always killed me in 1 lol

[EF_Neo1st]

Escrito originalmente por Silverlight:

I beat this game with like 20 vigor in my first play through.

Everyone says go vigor.

I say go and get lightroll and stop tanking hits

Even tho my first run I was with 14 VIG but then I started lvling it up to enough to survive 1 hit (what turns out to be VIG 25 for NG and 30~34 at NG+).
People forget about armor too when it comes to surviving.
Even tho I already beaten all bosses of the game not using flask I go "surviving 1 hit" (lack of patience to get 1hit) even because I play the souls games to chill (from simracing).

[EF_Neo1st]

"all bosses but mogh" (NIHIL NIHIL NIHIL)

[Scuzz]

For the average player the answer is vigor.

[EF_Neo1st]

Escrito originalmente por Scuzz:

For the average player the answer is vigor.

STR and VIG are "sort of" tied together irl.
END and VIG too.

[Hidrocslato]

gil do vigor

[Sabaithal]

True chad gamers: Levels only END and MIND. Nothing else.

[Jimothy]

I just like smashin stuff.

[Silverlight]

Escrito originalmente por Sabaithal:

True chad gamers: Levels only END and MIND. Nothing else.

Pure INT is the big brain move. Just use Flask of Wondrous Physik for FP buffs.

[hydra]

strength my beloved

[Kalvix]

Escrito originalmente por Scuzz:

For the average player the answer is vigor.

Not really the average, for people who know how the stats work. You get way more health per point of vigour than damage per point of strength. So sure if you want to play hard mode only level up strength and endurance, hell go only strength, or do RL1 run, whatever you wanna do, but you can't really deny unless playing a mage vigour isn't THE best first stat to get to at least 30-40 before levelling other ones.

[Meewec]

i like getting decent vigor just so i can survive a couple hits(or big hit) in the inevitable event of me missing a roll or doing a greedy hit. can't remember if my whip guy i'm currently playing is at 30 or 40 but i've pretty much done dex and some end for stamina

[EF_Neo1st]

Escrito originalmente por Kalvix:

Escrito originalmente por Scuzz:

For the average player the answer is vigor.

Not really the average, for people who know how the stats work. You get way more health per point of vigour than damage per point of strength. So sure if you want to play hard mode only level up strength and endurance, hell go only strength, or do RL1 run, whatever you wanna do, but you can't really deny unless playing a mage vigour isn't THE best first stat to get to at least 30-40 before levelling other ones.

Well.. I play with stats to be able to survive 1 hit and to play with Golden Halberd or other STR builds so take that into consideration.

Goolden Halberd requires STR 30, DEX 14, FAITH 12, meaning if I start as Wretch I need at least +20 STR +4 DEX +2 FAITH (+26 levels only there) and to carry the GH + "some "not so heavy armor" early on like Godrick Knight Set without fatroll I need +8 END (with Arsenal Charm I would need +4 END without fatroll), without medroll and changing armor piece to Tree-and-Beast Surcoat I would need +50 END + Arsenal Charm (tho without head and gauntlet I would need +32 and without legs too I would need only +18, what I usually do going earlly for +18 END).
VIG I would rise up to 15 for the start areas (Limgrave and Liurnia) so +5 lvls and with Tree-and-Beast Surcoat as armor, I would be lvl 35 and it is more than enough to survive 1 hit even at Alltus Plateau and most of Caelid, 20 VIG at Altus and Caelid to survive 1 hit (lvl 40) and 25 VIG to survive 1 hit at endgame and Halightree so lvl 45 (considering a full heavy armor set, 60+ END, Great-Jar's Arsenal and Erdtree's Favor +2).
If I consider to take earlier the Great-Jar's Arsenal I can wear more armor earlier.

END and armor is heavily underrated in relation to how heavily overrated VIG is, in the example to survive 1 hit early on using pure VIG I would need all 45 levels to be spent at VIG, the ton of extra heallth may grant 1 extra hit against light hits of stronger enemies, maybe 2 early on, but wont grant survivability of stats (non-physical stats, poison, rot, bleed, poise...) and also wont grant extra stamina that may come handy if you play by dodge and attack or if you play using a shield (and using a good heavy shield makes you extra heavy).

Anyone that really understands the stats wont just go for VIG