Just replayed Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne.

[Realistic Rattlesnake Jake]

MAN what a breath of fresh air that was compared to this game. I actually had fun and was immersed in the experience, ♥♥♥♥ was wild. I "like" Elden Ring, but man it just doesn't compare to the Dark Souls series or Bloodborne. I play Elden Ring and just get frustrated and exhausted with it, like I'm not having fun and am just on some wild ride that Miyazaki made to torture me. You could go through it and think "Man, do I just not like From Software games anymore?" but then you go back to the classics and go "Oh no this game just has something weird up with it". Wild how that works considering how similar this game is to its predecessors (bloodborne less so since the combat there is just different).

Have y'all replayed the earlier titles recently? I recommend it if you're burned out on Elden Ring, especially if you haven't played them in a couple of years.

[Despiser]

ER is a heavily scripted game. I don't like having to do stuff exactly according to code, like swing right here or jump right there. There should be a little fluidity without making it easier. Though you can't say designers didn't put a lot of care into the world. Never played DS games but am liking ER pretty much so maybe I'll check them out after I finish ER. Not planning on doing NG+ as I hate having to have YouTube beside me all the time.

[Realistic Rattlesnake Jake]

Originally posted by Despiser:

ER is a heavily scripted game. I don't like having to do stuff exactly according to code, like swing right here or jump right there. There should be a little fluidity without making it easier. Though you can't say designers didn't put a lot of care into the world. Never played DS games but am liking ER pretty much so maybe I'll check them out after I finish ER. Not planning on doing NG+ as I hate having to have YouTube beside me all the time.

I'd definitely trying any of them, except DS2. The earlier ones are much more linear but still provide that "more than one way to approach a situation" feel. Plus the not so open world contributes a lot more to how refined it feels IMO. And ya I hate that part of NG+/replays, having to read or watch the guides to do NPC quests is an annoying constant with FS.

[Senki]

played them multiple times after elden ring

Still love Elden Ring significantly more. Combat is more polished and build variety is much better. I also like the bosses and enemies in general more.

The only things I like more in dark souls/bloodborne are that you can respawn bosses in DS2 and the gun parry in bloodborne

[vamirez]

Agree with Senki - ER is the most polished "classic Souls" yet. Still love them all, tho.

[CODA]

Elden Ring is Content before Quality. This is why i simply like Bloodborne/DS more. It focuses more on quality and not the 10th AOE spam boss.

[Sabaithal]

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Bloodborne was Mediocre at best, and a lot of the people praising it are just trying to convince themselves that it was worth buying an overpriced console to play it

*Runs away/unsubs*

[Realistic Rattlesnake Jake]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

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Bloodborne was Mediocre at best, and a lot of the people praising it are just trying to convince themselves that it was worth buying an overpriced console to play it

*Runs away/unsubs*

Nah man, I really just like the game. That's okay that you don't though. I'll admit that it has some pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bosses in it, plus I'm not the biggest fan of the "lovecraftian I'm going hecking insane" vibes. But the bosses that are good are some of the best in the series. Soundtrack is one of the best ones too for me.

See like, when I say that Elden Ring is good I feel like I'm trying to justify spending sixty dollars on it. Because it just doesn't feel like as good of an experience as Dark Souls or Bloodborne. Maybe my opinion will change a bit once the DLC comes out, as that affects the discussion for sure. However, atm I just am not a big fan of how it feels. The endings don't satisfy me very much either as a lot of them just feel lazy.

[Vanitas]

Someone once said that Bosses in Elden Ring think they are in Sekiro or Bloodborne while the player is playing Dark Souls 3.

I find this describes it pretty well.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Vanitas:

Someone once said that Bosses in Elden Ring think they are in Sekiro or Bloodborne while the player is playing Dark Souls 3.

I find this describes it pretty well.

It doesn't.

Whoever says that never played sekiro or doesn't have the capacity to remember what sekiro bosses actually were. The bosses are designed for elden ring's combat.

The only boss that pushes the limit is Malenia with her waterfowl

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Rehabilitated Khorne Berserker:

MAN what a breath of fresh air that was compared to this game. I actually had fun and was immersed in the experience, ♥♥♥♥ was wild.

I did the same thing months ago when feeling some sorta way about Elden Ring. It was worth it. I enjoyed the hell out of those games.

I "like" Elden Ring, but man it just doesn't compare to the Dark Souls series or Bloodborne.

Hot take: It's the same generalized player character trudging through space and time. Elden Ring is what I like to think of as a very distant past and future of the Souls universe. Bloodborne can be included by extension of all the lore and contextual storytelling FS has masterfully presented.

I play Elden Ring and just get frustrated and exhausted with it, like I'm not having fun and am just on some wild ride that Miyazaki made to torture me.

I feel that 110%. There are some gimmicky things in this game! You feel so weak, right? That's why you're getting frustrated. Well, level Vigor. It's not a meme, it's just the balanced way to play before reaching late game or finding "the weapon" you're going to use for a while. I completely recognize the feeling you're having as I had it myself and did the same thing to cope.

You could go through it and think "Man, do I just not like From Software games anymore?" but then you go back to the classics and go "Oh no this game just has something weird up with it". Wild how that works considering how similar this game is to its predecessors (bloodborne less so since the combat there is just different).

Have y'all replayed the earlier titles recently? I recommend it if you're burned out on Elden Ring, especially if you haven't played them in a couple of years.

I have played Sekiro most recently. A lot of the boss design brilliance in ER was likely a result of feedback on Sekiro's boss fights from streamers and other influencers, which was resonated through the community as a whole.

So, I love modded DS3. It's just a thing. I did the Enemy Onslaught mod with x3 enemies to near-completion but got stuck somewhere. The hardest thing I have ever done in a Souls game is triple Oceiros. I was level 150 with Washing Pole, just to have range and speed all-in-one. They don't damage each other as some other enemies do(used to?)

If you are stuck on Elden Ring as it is, you can go offline and attempt to safely mod the game. Note that you can use your firewall to prevent your save files being scanned, but remove those files before rejoining the online service with unmodded game. There aren't as many mods for ER as there are for the Souls games obviously, but give it time and we'll see how Bandai Namco/FS feel about allowing us to play around with their brilliant assets.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Rehabilitated Khorne Berserker:

Originally posted by Despiser:

Never played DS games but am liking ER pretty much so maybe I'll check them out after I finish ER.

I'd definitely trying any of them, except DS2.

Why not?

[0wnz0r]

as soon as bloodborne comes to pc, i prolly wont touch ER again.

i only came bak to it cuz i love souls coop, n i downloaded a few muled saves so i dont need to do any tedious ♥♥♥♥.

[0wnz0r]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Originally posted by Rehabilitated Khorne Berserker:

I'd definitely trying any of them, except DS2.

Why not?

dks2 is 10 times more tedious than elden ring can ever be. plus the mechanics r all ♥♥♥♥. its overall a complete mess. a mediocre game that only benefits from souls mechanics.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by 0wnz0r:

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Why not?

dks2 is 10 times more tedious than elden ring can ever be. plus the mechanics r all ♥♥♥♥. its overall a complete mess. a mediocre game that only benefits from souls mechanics.

It's actually a solid game imo, and worth a look. I wouldn't tell someone to skip it, but that they should go in aware that it's different. It's important to have experience with a game, so may I ask what your experience with it was like?

Tedious in what way, exactly? It does not have daily login, farming, etc. and actually does its best to be a Souls game despite playing like a completely different game. All of the mechanics are bad? I don't think that's reasonable to say, but I respect your right to hate something.

Originally posted by 0wnz0r:

as soon as bloodborne comes to pc, i prolly wont touch ER again.

i only came bak to it cuz i love souls coop, n i downloaded a few muled saves so i dont need to do any tedious ♥♥♥♥.

Ahhhh, I gotcha. If this is what you mean, the farming to have all the items at your disposal for multiplayer... that's literally every game.

Bloodborne? Blood gem farms. Oh, you just looked up all the glyphs, and that wasn't tedious? I rest my case on that, but agree that it is what it is. Be fair and recognize the negative assessment of DS2 is ignored for that of BB

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by dragon15:

Originally posted by Vanitas:

Someone once said that Bosses in Elden Ring think they are in Sekiro or Bloodborne while the player is playing Dark Souls 3.

I find this describes it pretty well.

the problem with elden ring bosses is that they are made with OP ash of war and mimic tear in mind. remember rivers of blood before the neft? bosses are designed for that BS level.
so if you go 'souls purist' -> 'i wont use spirit ashes and spam L2" then youre going to have a bad time

I feel like the camera is a bigger issue than how bosses respond to ash of war usage, when it comes to criticizing those fights