Anyone got a good weapon tier list?

[Blind]

I googled a couple and they have very little in common.

I'm still using the Bloodhoud Fang, I like how much reach it has - but that could be said of all curved greatsword I suppose.

[Sonnenbank]

BH-Fang is a very good weapon.

At level 125 with golden vow and flame gms buff:

Fully charged R2 has okayish attack time and does ~ 1600 damage with good poise damage
The L2/R2 combo does ~ 3400 damage and has good range but overall takes kinda long
Jump attack ~ 1000 damage

r1 spam is decently fast + It has bleed
and you can coat it in different things depending on boss weakness

It was the number one weapon in Region Lock speedruns because
there is nothing better in the game before Rhykaard.
And in region lock you were only allowed to kill rhykaard after you have killed Rennala

However in non Region locked Serpent Hunter is clearly superior
since it just does much more damage.

[Blind]

> BH-Fang is a very good weapon.

Ya, I'm kinda having a weird issue with weapons now...

I just destroyed Aston the Naturalborn skellyboi in like 3 hits with Bloodhound, but took like 20 tries to kill Alecto due to only dealing like 130 damage against 'em (and in the end I won without getting hit cuz all the moves let you backstab if you just walk forward)

But ya, 2 bosses that are right next to each other... 3 hit combo vs. extremely difficult.

[CazadorDeLobo]

There's so many ways one could compare the weapons for PvE and PvP, but I'd like a "looks like what it is" tier list lol

[Mr_Blank]

This has been my experience with weapons based solely on their moveset.

S tier: greatswords, greatspears, curved swords, katanas, lightning incants, dragon incants.

A tier: shortswords, colossal swords, curved greatswords, heavy thrusting swords, black flame incantations, flame incantations, madness incantations.

B tier: spears, daggers, hammers, collosal weapons, thrusting swords, great axes, scarlet aeonia, bestial incantations

C: axes, great hammers, halberds, blood incantations

D: reapers, fists

E: claws, flails, holy incantations

F: bows, death incantations

Allll opinions, and I only put gusts above claws because they have good poise damage.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Sonnenbank님이 먼저 게시:

AH-1 Cobra님이 먼저 게시:

Imagine thinking your countering a point, when you're only proving the point I was making?

It used to do 5-6k+. Any of the weapons in that tier list video above all hit for way more than the laser beam sword ever did by several times.

Laser beam sword is now garbage tier, there's at least 20 weapons or builds that perform better than it does.

Broken is killing the Elden Beast in 1 shot at level 1. A weapon that 5-10 shots a boss is not broken, and is most likely not even in the top 25 builds.

"Laser beam sword is fine" - cope

ROFL.....

yeha i know Laser Beam Sword did ~ 6000damage per beam
but that was not ballanced... it was stupidly broken op....
being able to kill lategame bosses in 3-4 beams from range with zero difficulty is not balanced !
Making a stupidly op broken weapon that turned the game into a joke
into a very good weapon that you can easily finish the game with

isnt the same as making it garbage tier/useless....

2700-3000 damage from range with okay animation speed and relativly low mana cost is indeed fine ! I would say its even much better than fine.

Feel free to find 25 weapons that are better than this
lol

I tested all the weapons in the game and for sure there are not 25 weapons better than this....
Tier List videos often use level 200 builds with tons of temporary buffs to show off high damage numbers....
The 3000 damage i did were at level 125

Bro, people have OHKO'd bosses at level 1. Those weapons are still in the game, and haven't been nerfed.

You're consuming gazprom grade copium if you think the OG laser beam sword was broke compared to all this other stuff.

There is nothing broke about killing a boss in 5 hits, in fact that's pretty standard in Souls-Like games with optimized builds. This is why it's sort of a meme to suggest that these games are actually difficult. The difficulty is self-created by players running bad builds who think bosses are massive HP sponges.

Now, the laser beam shield actually was busted. It used an unintended exploit. I was destroying people in PVP nonstop using it, and 1 beam = OHKO regardless of their HP, level, or defenses.

From Software has never proven to be competent at balancing games before, and that hasn't changed with Elden Ring.

[CazadorDeLobo]

AH-1 Cobra님이 먼저 게시:

Sonnenbank님이 먼저 게시:

ROFL.....

yeha i know Laser Beam Sword did ~ 6000damage per beam
but that was not ballanced... it was stupidly broken op....
being able to kill lategame bosses in 3-4 beams from range with zero difficulty is not balanced !
Making a stupidly op broken weapon that turned the game into a joke
into a very good weapon that you can easily finish the game with

isnt the same as making it garbage tier/useless....

2700-3000 damage from range with okay animation speed and relativly low mana cost is indeed fine ! I would say its even much better than fine.

Feel free to find 25 weapons that are better than this
lol

I tested all the weapons in the game and for sure there are not 25 weapons better than this....
Tier List videos often use level 200 builds with tons of temporary buffs to show off high damage numbers....
The 3000 damage i did were at level 125

Bro, people have OHKO'd bosses at level 1. Those weapons are still in the game, and haven't been nerfed.

You're consuming gazprom grade copium if you think the OG laser beam sword was broke compared to all this other stuff.

There is nothing broke about killing a boss in 5 hits, in fact that's pretty standard in Souls-Like games with optimized builds. This is why it's sort of a meme to suggest that these games are actually difficult. The difficulty is self-created by players running bad builds who think bosses are massive HP sponges.

Now, the laser beam shield actually was busted. It used an unintended exploit. I was destroying people in PVP nonstop using it, and 1 beam = OHKO regardless of their HP, level, or defenses.

From Software has never proven to be competent at balancing games before, and that hasn't changed with Elden Ring.

Based attack helicopter take

[Blind]

I like the pike, but it's terrible at horse combat... it always misses.

Do any weapons have special horse combat combos

...or guard counter combos?

Also: I JUST discovered that Bloodhound's Finesse has a follow-up strike :P

[Krypto]

Darkmoon Greatsword. I think that's what it's called. Best weapon in the game next to Moonveil.

[Sephylon]

Blind님이 먼저 게시:

I like the pike, but it's terrible at horse combat... it always misses.

Do any weapons have special horse combat combos

...or guard counter combos?

Also: I JUST discovered that Bloodhound's Finesse has a follow-up strike :P

No and noish, horse heavy and light are pretty much thesame for all weps: a swing for a light and dragging the wep>swing for a heavy. Only difference will be the range. As for guard counters, it all goes thesame, but its also an easy way to proc counter attacks with piercing weps. Rusted anchor with curved sword, lance, and greatshield can do alot of damage as it does piercing despite being a great axe.

[Scrambled onions]

Krypto (The Forever Sleepy)님이 먼저 게시:

Darkmoon Greatsword. I think that's what it's called. Best weapon in the game next to Moonveil.

Imo a weapon is only truly good if you don't need every talisman slot and your physic flask built around it

[Blind]

♤Scrambled onions♤님이 먼저 게시:

Krypto (The Forever Sleepy)님이 먼저 게시:

Darkmoon Greatsword. I think that's what it's called. Best weapon in the game next to Moonveil.

Imo a weapon is only truly good if you don't need every talisman slot and your physic flask built around it

ya, no buffs, no resins, fox only

[Honk1]

ChaseTheBro has a new video where he recommends Dex weapons from every weapon class and shows them off in invasions. It's pretty long, but you could click through it to the weapon classes you are interested in. It's obviously a PvP list, but that does not mean the weapons are bad in PvE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkoB2jgm82g

[Go4Pro]

♤Scrambled onions♤님이 먼저 게시:

Krypto (The Forever Sleepy)님이 먼저 게시:

Darkmoon Greatsword. I think that's what it's called. Best weapon in the game next to Moonveil.

Imo a weapon is only truly good if you don't need every talisman slot and your physic flask built around it

truth

[Krypto]

♤Scrambled onions♤님이 먼저 게시:

Krypto (The Forever Sleepy)님이 먼저 게시:

Darkmoon Greatsword. I think that's what it's called. Best weapon in the game next to Moonveil.

Imo a weapon is only truly good if you don't need every talisman slot and your physic flask built around it

I had 80 intelligence and only used the flask for the bubble shield. Moonveil was my backup when Darkmoon was too slow or not good against certain enemies. Only buff it gave me was frost build up.

[Scrambled onions]

Krypto (The Forever Sleepy)님이 먼저 게시:

♤Scrambled onions♤님이 먼저 게시:

Imo a weapon is only truly good if you don't need every talisman slot and your physic flask built around it

I had 80 intelligence and only used the flask for the bubble shield. Moonveil was my backup when Darkmoon was too slow or not good against certain enemies. Only buff it gave me was frost build up.

Talismans (talismen?) Still help tremendously, the bolt of gransax is mediocre at best without talismans but with them it can 4 shot maliketh on ng+3 with its ash of war