So since Melina is apparently missable

[Tao314zdin]

In a sense that if you keep fighting on until Godrick is dead (or mb even earlier, after Magrit?) without resting at grace (getting respawned there does not trigger her) you might never find her until backtrack to Limgrave.

Did anyone checked what happens if you defeat 5 shard-bearers (that would be max without glitches, right?) before meeting her for the 1st time?

[Wild]

If first thing, you kill godrick, then the next grace site you sit at, Melina tries to talk to you.
She doesn’t even let you go to the roundtable until you stand up and sit down again, I would be extremely shocked if they did something for killing five shardbearers before talking to her.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Wild:

If first thing, you kill godrick, then the next grace site you sit at, Melina tries to talk to you.

Only if you go back to Limgrave as it seems so you can explore all the way forward (+diagonal to Caelid) and she will not pop up.

I found in one video that if it is just Godrick she will not react to that what so ever, but it might bug Gideon since he really did not expect that. I guess the result will be same with 5 shard bearers anyway.

Kind of disappointing though that they did not take such possibility into account, but I guess if Melina would be faced with the fact that she is not needed for anything beside opening the door (to the Capital) her role might be compromised...

[doublejesus]

As seen in the "no talking elden ring" YMFAH video you can go back to the first grace site and melina will never bother you. But you have to wrong warp or zip into the capital because of the fact that regardless of how many shardbearers you kill until you trigger melina you cannot enter the capital.

[Sabaithal]

Don't you HAVE to rest at a grace after killing Margit prior to reaching roundtable hold? I remember a fog wall or something blocking me from going anywhere until I did.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Don't you HAVE to rest at a grace after killing Margit prior to reaching roundtable hold? I remember a fog wall or something blocking me from going anywhere until I did.

You don't. That happens after Morgott, but by that point you have to trigger Melina so she opens the door.

[Mr_Blank]

If you refuse Melina’s offer you will be unable to level up. So it’s kinda mandatory for most players to meet her lol.

But yes you can miss her.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

If you refuse Melina’s offer you will be unable to level up. So it’s kinda mandatory for most players to meet her lol.

But yes you can miss her.

Well there is NG+.

[Amins]

Originally posted by Tao314zdin:

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

If you refuse Melina’s offer you will be unable to level up. So it’s kinda mandatory for most players to meet her lol.

But yes you can miss her.

Well there is NG+.

Yes, I've avoided Limgrave bonfires on NG+ just to see how far I could get without speaking to her, as you still get to keep Torrent. So leveling is unecessary, too. As far as I can tell, you just can't get into the Capital without her. I forget, is there a way to get to the Deeproot Depths and bypass that gate with the portal without having to talk to Melina?

[Amins]

And it's also very strange that there is an extremely small amount of bonfires that you can even meet her at for the first time. Like, pretty much just a few around Lake Agheel. I could see it being very easy to just miss her altogether. I actually had to help guide my friend to the right one on his first time playing.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Amins:

I forget, is there a way to get to the Deeproot Depths and bypass that gate with the portal without having to talk to Melina?

shouldn't need to talk to her to get to deeproot. you can kill radahn and go through where the meteor hits to get to valiant gargoyles for their coffin. can't get up to the capital from there as far as i know though.