fire giant is so bad and elden ring is one of the worst games ever made

[darknessviking]

this game is so broken so unbalanced so bizarre, i play as an astrologer right, and then i come to the fire giant. good luck beating it with the astrologer, a character who barely moves and makes slow attacks.

talk about bad developers who makes a game breaking boss, how are you even supposed to beat this boss? if you manage to get close what do you do, try and lock on target good luck. if you try and get some distance well let me tell you big suprise he smashes you or show you fireballs and game over.

this game, it could have been a fun game if it had been similar to darksiders, instead its some kind of bad clown game.

i played this on ps 5 and i hope nobody waste money on it

[Grim]

Am I the one finding it hilarious someone tweaked out over the Fire Giant of all bosses? lol...

[AlienWired]

I'm finding the same people that like this game, think Starbourne 2 is awesome.

Everquest has FAR more to offer than this and it's graphics engine is 20 years older.

[Sabaithal]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SotiCoto:

Oprindeligt skrevet af vamirez:

Yeah, at some point you could write a whole novel to express it all, but realize that it can actually be condensed down to "git gud", even though you thought you're not of them people... ;)

Writing a whole novel is a lot less condescending though. 90% of those saying "git gud" and 100% of those saying "skill issue" are just doing it to be d!cks. Well, memetic dickery. They're doing it because people like parroting what others say for a sense of inclusion and don't care if they're being total d!cks in the process.
I'd like to think that sooner or later most will grow out of that kind of pointless antagonism... but by then there is a whole new generation to start it up again.

Arguably both are bad choices. No one wants to read some huge, essay long response to one or two sentences. Its a pain to do so, and its typically an indicator that the other person doesn't know how to get their point down clearly in words. Or that they are just trying to "declare victory" by boring the other party to death.

And people who just respond with 'git gud'... well, when has anyone ever listened to that?

[MULTIPASS]

"git gud" is a legitimate response in many cases.

Some people have a tendency to respond to failure by becoming rules lawyers and (pointlessly) litigating the terms of the challenge. It's as if a chess novice played a master, and in response to getting beat started saying things like "the Queen is OP, nerf the queen."

The game isn't going to be changed in some drastic way to meet their demands. The challenge is what it is, and the only way forward is to either practice and improve or quit. "Git gud" is a way of cutting straight to that point and refusing to engage in a pointless debate over how things could or should be.

[EF_Neo1st]

Oprindeligt skrevet af darknessviking:

this game is so broken so unbalanced so bizarre, i play as an astrologer right, and then i come to the fire giant. good luck beating it with the astrologer, a character who barely moves and makes slow attacks.

talk about bad developers who makes a game breaking boss, how are you even supposed to beat this boss? if you manage to get close what do you do, try and lock on target good luck. if you try and get some distance well let me tell you big suprise he smashes you or show you fireballs and game over.

this game, it could have been a fun game if it had been similar to darksiders, instead its some kind of bad clown game.

i played this on ps 5 and i hope nobody waste money on it

In all honesty, you being bad at it (skill or game knowledge ... or both) dont make it unfair/impossible.

What you describe is literaly "I can not beat it the way I play and I failed (or did not want) to adapt" type of situation.

[AlienWired]

South Park Cartman........ would say "Git gud"...

And we all know what Cartman is.

And speaking of skills when it comes to gaming...

Call me when you run chainsaws with 30+ inch blades, then we can talk about what "skill" is.

[EF_Neo1st]

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlienWired:

South Park Cartman........ would say "Git gud"...

And we all know what Cartman is.

And speaking of skills when it comes to gaming...

Call me when you run chainsaws with 30+ inch blades, then we can talk about what "skill" is.

The comical attempt of ad-hominen, +7 for trying.

You dont need to run 30+inch blade chainsaws to have skills to beat fire giant, just skill enough to hold yourself and dont just go at it thinking it will be insta-win.

[Pozzy Vibes GGHF :)]

if its too hard use a summon. Game is so easy if you want to make it that way.

[Sabaithal]

Oprindeligt skrevet af EF_Neo1st:

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlienWired:

South Park Cartman........ would say "Git gud"...

And we all know what Cartman is.

And speaking of skills when it comes to gaming...

Call me when you run chainsaws with 30+ inch blades, then we can talk about what "skill" is.

The comical attempt of ad-hominen, +7 for trying.

You dont need to run 30+inch blade chainsaws to have skills to beat fire giant, just skill enough to hold yourself and dont just go at it thinking it will be insta-win.

Or the Godskin peeler. Blackflame tornado 4 times, fire giant dead. Its actually comical.

[RopeDrink]

If you reach a wall, don't get your own way, and make no effort to approach the problem from different angles, then 'balance' is not the problem. No matter what class or build you push, there are answers for everything -- in a game where the truly dedicated can probably beat the entire game as a naked level 1 Wretch with a club, or kill every boss without taking any damage -- or perhaps both.

I love nothing more than grabbing a Lordsworn Straight-Sword and going ham, but when I get to the caves and my attacks start bouncing off the rock-miners, I don't bemoan balance -- I use [insert literally any strike-weapon here] and call it a day -- even if it goes against my build, style, or preference.

Unless you are going for the most generic and widely applicable build in existence, there are going to be mobs, bosses and situations that favor X style more than Y, hence sticking to a one-note path (be it for fun or for preference) will be challenged -- and this is all part and parcel.

Doesn't matter whether it's a joke, a troll, or a legitimate complaint - you're not going to get far by blaming devs because X boss gave Y player using Z style a challenge. You can keep bashing your head against it without changing your strategy, and probably win in the end, or you can revise your strategy, learn the mechanics, when it's safe to do X, when not to do Y, and all that jazz.

[impuretrash2878]

I've beat this boss several times and I've died to him a lot. But I still think he's a lot of fun. The toughest time I had was using my pure melee character. Mages (astrologers) make everything easier so I don't know what you're on about. You must be doing something wrong.

But yeah anyway try melee until you get him to the second phase, Then jump on Torrent, get some distance and shoot him with fully charged Loretta's mastery. It's super cool that you can use that spell from horseback and this fight benefits greatly from the added mobility. But be patient and make sure to watch what he's doing. Try to ready an attack when he's summoning fireballs or whatever. Abandon the charge if it looks like you're about to get hit.

[Blinky Dorf]

Sorry you had this experience, buddy. Fire Giant operates a little differently than most bosses up to it, but like most other elements of Elden Ring, you don't have to "git gud", you simply have to fight smart! Here's a few things I did/learned to get through Fire Giant:

1. Your starting class (in your case, astrologer) only determines what gear you start with, and has no bearing on where you put your levels and what gear you decide to invest in. So put some points in Vigor and get beefy!

2. Shields, even the medium heater shields with a 10 Strength requirement, are incredibly useful. There's a mechanic called "guard breaking," wherein your character is staggered whenever their stamina runs out while blocking. In most situations, the stagger means that you are going to get slapped by the enemy's next attack... But Fire Giant's attacks are so slow that you've recovered by the time he swings again. As long as your shield blocks 100% physical damage (most heater shields do this), you can stop most of his attacks simply by blocking. This requires no particular skill other than knowing where the block button is. Even his massive snow-launching shovel attack can be completely mitigated with this method.

3. Status effects are powerful and easy tools to bring to fights. Arrows, pots and grease are the most straightforward methods and require no stat investment, but some spells apply them as well. Bleed, Poison and Rot all do respectable damage to Fire Giant's health, and can be applied once or twice throughout the fight. All three can be applied from far away, and his retaliation attacks can all be blocked for no damage.

4. Aim for weakspots. In phase 1, his ankle takes all the damage. In phase 2, his chest and head take the damage.

5. Bring the right tools for the right job. Elden Ring is more about the tools than the fight, and bringing the right equipment can make all the difference. I mentioned the heater shield, and someone else mentioned the spell Shard Spiral, which does a buttload of damage, since it hits multiple times as it chews through him. Status effect arrows and pots are easy ways to apply damage unrelated on your skills or stats, and if you feel like your spells are casting too slow, see if you can find the Radagon Icon; it's a talisman that makes your spells come out faster.

I hope this helps. Elden Ring can be beaten, and it doesn't need to be with skill or reflexes. A simple shield, some poop-filled clay pots and a little patience will do most of the work for you.

[vamirez]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SotiCoto:

Oprindeligt skrevet af vamirez:

Yeah, at some point you could write a whole novel to express it all, but realize that it can actually be condensed down to "git gud", even though you thought you're not of them people... ;)

Writing a whole novel is a lot less condescending though. 90% of those saying "git gud" and 100% of those saying "skill issue" are just doing it to be d!cks. Well, memetic dickery. They're doing it because people like parroting what others say for a sense of inclusion and don't care if they're being total d!cks in the process.
I'd like to think that sooner or later most will grow out of that kind of pointless antagonism... but by then there is a whole new generation to start it up again.

The point of the comments you reacted to here was that we understand the whole "git gud" answer dynamic. You know.

[EF_Neo1st]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Blinky Dorf:

Sorry you had this experience, buddy. Fire Giant operates a little differently than most bosses up to it, but like most other elements of Elden Ring, you don't have to "git gud", you simply have to fight smart! Here's a few things I did/learned to get through Fire Giant:

Actually....
He have to git gud . . it all start with a gud mindset, THAT is the true git gud, to git a gud mindset towards it, it also is applicable irl.

[vamirez]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Grimtempest:

Am I the one finding it hilarious someone tweaked out over the Fire Giant of all bosses? lol...

No. Which is why I asked OP above two times how long he had to play to come to this point ;)