Quality vs everything else

[Brian]

In all the videos I'm watching, pretty much everyone agrees that quality is underpowered and you're pretty much better off with anything else. I was thinking of playing your classic sword and board knight using the seamless co-op mod while my wife plays a Dex/Arc archer/dual-curved character. But now I'm thinking I need to do Str/Fai or something instead. Thoughts?

[Mepeet]

Play what you find fun?

[Brian]

Being ineffectual isn't fun in a video game :p

[RedEssence]

I did an entire run through of the game sword and boarding as a knight

I personally used a heavy lordsworn's straight sword with square off and had no issues with damage throughout the entire game

[Lenox]

Math was done on these forums a while back on this. Quality becomes better at around level 125. Before that, it's worse. Use that information how you wish.

[Brian]

Originally posted by RedEssence:

I did an entire run through of the game sword and boarding as a knight

I personally used a heavy lordsworn's straight sword with sqaure off and had no issues with damage throughout the entire game

Interesting. That's what I'm using right now (minus the heavy).

[Brian]

Originally posted by Lenox:

Math was done on these forums a while back on this. Quality becomes better at around level 125. Before that, it's worse. Use that information how you wish.

That's basically regardless of weapon chosen?

[RedEssence]

Originally posted by Brian:

Originally posted by RedEssence:

I did an entire run through of the game sword and boarding as a knight

I personally used a heavy lordsworn's straight sword with sqaure off and had no issues with damage throughout the entire game

Interesting. That's what I'm using right now (minus the heavy).

The heavy was nice because it meant I only needed to level up 3 stats, vigor, endurance, and strength

So by the end game at level 150, I had 60 vigor and 80 strength and like 40 or something endurance

I was fast, tanky, and hit decently hard especially with square off

[weganime]

just play the way you feel like it is good but i also i have a tips , what i do when i have no idea what to play i just search best builds on internet then make my own version of the build i like

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Brian:

Being ineffectual isn't fun in a video game :p

Depends on your definiton of "ineffectual". Is it being actually ineffectual, or simply using anything besides the best tool available?

Because if it's the latter, well, you'd be surprised how many weapons, sorceries, incantations, etc. don't have the best damage output, but are pretty stylish and fun to use.

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Originally posted by Brian:

Being ineffectual isn't fun in a video game :p

Git gud.

[weganime]

Originally posted by Norm Macdonald's Ghost:

Originally posted by Brian:

Being ineffectual isn't fun in a video game :p

Git gud.

your profile picture says everything

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Originally posted by amaterasu:

Originally posted by Norm Macdonald's Ghost:

Git gud.

your profile picture says everything

Stop discriminating against deaf people! Give me more clowns so that I may really sell this image.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Brian:

Originally posted by Lenox:

Math was done on these forums a while back on this. Quality becomes better at around level 125. Before that, it's worse. Use that information how you wish.

That's basically regardless of weapon chosen?

I don't know that I tested all 400 weapons, but I'd expect the answer to this to be "yes."
However, some weapons are better as quality earlier than others. But you can pretty much bet that most weapons would be best at quality with 80 str & 80 dex. For my tastes, I scoped out a character with 55 / 55.

To be clear, I'm mostly comparing this to heavy and keen.

[Lenox]

https://eldenring.tclark.io/

See for yourself.

[Anthreris]

Slightly off topic. But is Square Off better than Impaling Thrust? I've been using Impaling thrust for range on my Blackflame Lordsworn's Greatsword build.

Also guard counter is really strong with 2 handed weapons.