Which ending do you think is the true ending?

[ikan]

From what we all know that in every Souls game there's two kinds of ending, either you continue the cycle or break it. But idk about this game, will there be a cycle of throne usurpation after you becoming an Elden Lord?

[Backstabba]

Originalmente postado por 5chneemensch:

The Age Of Despair is the Dung Eater ending.

The Dung Eater's ending ends up "Cursing" everyone to be an omen or have Crucible traits.

Aka The "Blessing of Despair" ending IS the Crucible ending as you force the Crucible's "blessing" onto all...Even though they fear the perceived persecution.

Hence the name "Blessing of Despair" as its a primal blessing that will bring despair to adherents of the Golden Order.

[Sabaithal]

Originalmente postado por Backstabba:

Originalmente postado por 5chneemensch:

The Age Of Despair is the Dung Eater ending.

The Dung Eater's ending ends up "Cursing" everyone to be an omen or have Crucible traits.

Aka The "Blessing of Despair" ending IS the Crucible ending as you force the Crucible's "blessing" onto all...Even though they fear the perceived persecution.

Hence the name "Blessing of Despair" as its a primal blessing that will bring despair to adherents of the Golden Order.

IE the "you have all sinned since before you were (re)born, now repent ye sinners! Also give us all your money because the Greater Will needs money!" ending.

[Caramel_Clown]

Probably lord of frenzy. It seems to be the only one hinting at some sort of continuation.

[5chneemensch]

Originalmente postado por Backstabba:

Originalmente postado por 5chneemensch:

The Age Of Despair is the Dung Eater ending.

The Dung Eater's ending ends up "Cursing" everyone to be an omen or have Crucible traits.

Aka The "Blessing of Despair" ending IS the Crucible ending as you force the Crucible's "blessing" onto all...Even though they fear the perceived persecution.

Hence the name "Blessing of Despair" as its a primal blessing that will bring despair to adherents of the Golden Order.

Than you for confirming what I wrote previously.

[Backstabba]

Originalmente postado por 5chneemensch:

Originalmente postado por Backstabba:

The Dung Eater's ending ends up "Cursing" everyone to be an omen or have Crucible traits.

Aka The "Blessing of Despair" ending IS the Crucible ending as you force the Crucible's "blessing" onto all...Even though they fear the perceived persecution.

Hence the name "Blessing of Despair" as its a primal blessing that will bring despair to adherents of the Golden Order.

Than you for confirming what I wrote previously.

...Rereading it I learned that I kept on misreading what you wrote as referring to the frenzied flame as the age of the crucible.

I'm sorry I feel so dumb right now.

[MundM]

Originalmente postado por lailaamell95:

Originalmente postado por MrLuckless:

The base "Elden Lord" ending. Much like how the standard "sacrifice self to fire" ending was pretty much the default for DS 1 and 2 to justify getting to 3.

Ds 2 kinda told you your choice did not really matter so both endings are real and not real

This isn't Dark Souls 2, though, not even close. The Dark Souls universe is in an endless circle, no matter if there is fire or not, because fire will come again. The god souls are also undying, so everything will repeat in one way or another.
In Elden Ring, there are literal existing gods who hold the strings. One has a very powerfull manifestation on the planet, and wants to rule his way like a paraside, leeching on despair. There are other gods who could come into play at any moment, so the present god has to make people do what he wants. There's no repeating circle in the lands between, because there is no curse. There are gods who manipulate everybody into shaping the world to how they want it to be.

[Citizen of Zozo]

Originalmente postado por 5chneemensch:

Tl;dr: Ranni makes the moon the new influencial Outer God, replacing the Greater Will. The moon doesn't give a damn about what is happening in The Lands Between, it's just chilling. The Lands Between are essentially free from outer influence and therefore people are finally free.

Basically freedom of religion with no actual existing/influential higher being(s).


Granted, the stars *literally* predetermine your fate, which is why Radhan has stopped them. So considering it is called "The Age Of Stars" you could argue that predetermined fates returned to TLB.

I know the Moon said that... but that doesn't mean it's legit. Hahaha. The only things that have come out of the stars are eldritch abominations and knowledge that drives people insane (also turns them into rocks.) I'm not inclined to trust it.
Based on my knowledge of the lore, Ranni was groomed from childhood by the snow witch (in secret) to one day betray the Golden Order. After all, we're never given a specific reason why Ranni decided to take the course of action that she does. Is the Golden Order evil? I mean, sure, but obviously something had to happen for young Ranni to come to the conclusion that she didn't want to be an Empyrean. The only thing that makes sense is that the snow witch (an agent of the Moon god similar to Gowry for Rot?) put these ideas in her head.

I guess what it boils down to is that I don't believe Fromsoft is kind enough to *make* a genuine good ending. It's just not their style. The Age of Stars gives the surface appearance of being one without actual confirmation I suppose.
If they ever release a sequel to Elden Ring I can easily see the Age of Stars as being a bad thing. Ranni betrayed her family. Her fellow assassins. Then, finally, her closest companions. It would be fitting if the Moon betrayed her and had designs of its own all along.

[5chneemensch]

Originalmente postado por Citizen of Zozo:

I guess what it boils down to is that I don't believe Fromsoft is kind enough to *make* a genuine good ending. It's just not their style. The Age of Stars gives the surface appearance of being one without actual confirmation I suppose.

That is the fun part. A "good" good ending would just make the series boring. I believe the Age Of Despair from poopoo man is the "goodest" ending - without resorting to the hard-reset of the FF. You may perhaps believe the Goldmask ending is the "goodest" or the Fia ending and that is a valid POV as long as you think about the consequences resulting from it.

Everyone has their POV on what is good or isn't and what is worth to sacrifice and what means are acceptable to achieve that.

Same ♥♥♥♥♥ in Souls3 where people wanted to "save" Greirat by denying him is singular will to live and ultimately making him go hollow. Greirat dieing is his "good" ending. Irina becoming an emotionless FK or getting killed by you as Eygon cosplay is her "good" ending. Orbeck dieing cursed and broken in the pursuit of knowledge is his "good" ending.
Makes you think why they didn't give the pyro dude a "good" ending.