somone who knows 100% tell me what you cant parry?

[Deviant]

I wanna try play some parry build only have never bothered to parry in my 1200 hours played but i need to know what cant be parried 100%?

[CazadorDeLobo]

Lenox님이 먼저 게시:

Deviant님이 먼저 게시:

if somone could comply full list of things that cant be parried that would be great

I haven't completed my parry playthrough yet, so all I have is piecemeal info unfortunately. Godrick, whips, flails, Tree Avatars. I don't know what else. And this was months ago.

CazadorDeLobo님이 먼저 게시:

For everything else it's usually best to just attack rather than defend.

I agree with this, generally. The only time I like to emphasize parries, outside of style points, is if I have a high-crit weapon on a lightweight build. Really for Misericorde usage. With that type of build, my crits are usually really strong and it's not worthwhile to expose myself to possible dangerous trades by using regular attacks.

The old days of riposting and backstabbing as the entire point of a weapon are behind us, and that means enemies designed to be best fought that way are quite rare. Generally, all a riposte does for you in this game is equivalent to Ash of War damage or a bleed proc, in my experience anyways. Feast or Famine mechanics aren't being used properly.

[C1REX]

Jump attacks can’t be parried as far as I know.

[Lenox]

CazadorDeLobo님이 먼저 게시:

Lenox님이 먼저 게시:

I haven't completed my parry playthrough yet, so all I have is piecemeal info unfortunately. Godrick, whips, flails, Tree Avatars. I don't know what else. And this was months ago.


I agree with this, generally. The only time I like to emphasize parries, outside of style points, is if I have a high-crit weapon on a lightweight build. Really for Misericorde usage. With that type of build, my crits are usually really strong and it's not worthwhile to expose myself to possible dangerous trades by using regular attacks.

The old days of riposting and backstabbing as the entire point of a weapon are behind us, and that means enemies designed to be best fought that way are quite rare. Generally, all a riposte does for you in this game is equivalent to Ash of War damage or a bleed proc, in my experience anyways. Feast or Famine mechanics aren't being used properly.

Ya. Kinda sad, since my first Dark Souls 1 character was a parry / riposte thief. Played most of the game that way. Oh, well. At least we have Crucible Knight.

[Scuzz]

Deviant님이 먼저 게시:

if somone could comply full list of things that cant be parried that would be great

Sure, I don't have a life I will do it for you.

Just kidding.

[Lenox]

Scuzz님이 먼저 게시:

Deviant님이 먼저 게시:

if somone could comply full list of things that cant be parried that would be great

Sure, I don't have a life I will do it for you.

Just kidding.

The fact that Fextralife lists the below information is telling on how difficult it is to compile this type of list.

The best way to determine whether a particular attack is parriable is to try parrying it a few times. If it seems like you're getting the timing right but the parry still isn't happening, you're out of luck.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Parrying

[Narm]

For PvP:
You can't parry jump attacks.
You can't parry grabs (Frenzy grab is the only PvP grab).

Weapons that can't be parried:
whips
flails
colossal weapons
I'm a little hazy on the specifics, but some weapons can't be parried when they're 2H'd but can be parried when 1H'd. Generally bigger weapons but I don't remember which.
Pretty sure shield attacks can't be parried either.

You can actually parry carian slicer with any type of parry, not just carian retaliation.

Most ashes that involve a melee swing can be parried, but you have to parry the weapon hitbox. Like RoB's Corpse Piler, Moonveil's WA, Stormblade, Giant Hunt, Sword Dance, the followup swing to Flaming Strike (but not the first flame throwing part), etc...

For PvE:
Similar rules as above. Generally, most boss and mob melee attacks can be parried, but you often have to test as there are some exceptions.

Tips:
PvP parrying is trickier because you have to account for latency. Most of your parrying will be predictive parrying, not reactive parrying. It's often easiest to bait a sprint attack to pull off a parry. Most players will switch to jump attacks if you whiff a parry.

Buckler with regular parry has the largest parry window. Carian Retaliation has the tallest vertical parry hitbox. Golden Parry has a huge parry distance (good for parrying weapon arts like RoB's and Noobveil's WAs). Parry on a weapon has the smallest parry window.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Narm님이 먼저 게시:

You can't parry grabs (Frenzy grab is the only PvP grab).

I wonder which would win, in a trade between Lifesteal Fist and Inescapable Frenzy.

Also based on this video's testing, unless something has changed, Buckler Parry frames = enhanced Parries via Ash of War(Carian Retaliation, Golden Parry, etc.) - the advantage is in its startup, where it enables more reactive parrying than anticipatory. Apart from that, it's not very good at being a shield vs. Medium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEcWX6cWeo&ab_channel=AngBata11

In the past games, it had more frames in the parry window.

[Sabaithal]

Don't try to parry a runebear.

[Fallout]

ProestUnicorn님이 먼저 게시:

Just go and parry stuff, grabs or attacks from gigantic monsters, as well as AoE spells and arrows cannot be parried really.

You can actually parry arrows, pots, and "physical" spell projectiles like Bestial Sling and Stone of Gurranq with Storm Wall, Stormcaller, Zamor Ice Storm, and other ashes / spells with a wind hitbox.

The only projectiles you can't really do anything about are Great Arrows / Great Bolts I'm pretty sure, but even then you can just block those.

Edit: Spinning Strikes AOW on polearms is also able to actively block arrows.

[Narm]

CazadorDeLobo님이 먼저 게시:

Narm님이 먼저 게시:

You can't parry grabs (Frenzy grab is the only PvP grab).

I wonder which would win, in a trade between Lifesteal Fist and Inescapable Frenzy.

I forgot about lifesteal fist, good catch.

[Deviant]

i see thanks for the info

[Lenox]

Sabaithal님이 먼저 게시:

Don't try to parry a runebear.

Don't lie to me. It will work out this time.

Fallout님이 먼저 게시:

You can actually parry arrows, pots, and "physical" spell projectiles like Bestial Sling and Stone of Gurranq with Storm Wall, Stormcaller, Zamor Ice Storm, and other ashes / spells with a wind hitbox.

Edit: Spinning Strikes AOW on polearms is also able to actively block arrows.

I always wondered about this. Is there a benefit of doing this instead of just sidestepping?

[Fallout]

Lenox님이 먼저 게시:

Fallout님이 먼저 게시:

You can actually parry arrows, pots, and "physical" spell projectiles like Bestial Sling and Stone of Gurranq with Storm Wall, Stormcaller, Zamor Ice Storm, and other ashes / spells with a wind hitbox.

Edit: Spinning Strikes AOW on polearms is also able to actively block arrows.

I always wondered about this. Is there a benefit of doing this instead of just sidestepping?

Besides looking really cool, there's not much of a point if it's just a single arrow coming your way. But it does have a niche I feel.

It could help you from being caught by AOE projectiles (fire & lightning pots), as they'll probably be flung off in another direction instead of landing at your feet.
Persistent hitboxes like Stormcaller and Spinning Strikes would be alright at protecting yourself from groups of enemies throwing pots or shooting arrows at you, but that wouldn't be really helpful if they're out of range.

Honestly I think the wind ashes would be best against Bestial Sling & Stone of Gurranq as it would help you conserve more stamina if you can't dodge them in time, and because they do a lot of stamina damage against blockers. But yeah in most cases sidestepping or rolling is probably easier.

I don't think it blocks projectiles, but if Storm Blade had a wind hitbox, it could have a better niche over Beast Roar for punishing someone trying to throw stuff at you.

[Lenox]

Fallout님이 먼저 게시:

Lenox님이 먼저 게시:

I always wondered about this. Is there a benefit of doing this instead of just sidestepping?

Besides looking really cool, there's not much of a point if it's just a single arrow coming your way. But it does have a niche I feel.

It could help you from being caught by AOE projectiles (fire & lightning pots), as they'll probably be flung off in another direction instead of landing at your feet.
Persistent hitboxes like Stormcaller and Spinning Strikes would be alright at protecting yourself from groups of enemies throwing pots or shooting arrows at you, but that wouldn't be really helpful if they're out of range.

Honestly I think the wind ashes would be best against Bestial Sling & Stone of Gurranq as it would help you conserve more stamina if you can't dodge them in time, and because they do a lot of stamina damage against blockers. But yeah in most cases sidestepping or rolling is probably easier.

I don't think it blocks projectiles, but if Storm Blade had a wind hitbox, it could have a better niche over Beast Roar for punishing someone trying to throw stuff at you.

Hey, style points is important. And good comments. I haven't really messed with that stuff yet but was looking at testing it out earlier this week.

I guess it could also help if you're trying to kill one enemy while others are shooting at you from afar? Damage the near guy while dodging crap from the rest.

[cl656]

Drukaris님이 먼저 게시:

Deviant님이 먼저 게시:

your post makes no sense but understandable cuz you got too little iq to comprehend what im asking

oh he knows exactly what youre asking

youre asking us to pamper your lazy ass with our hard earned knowledge and get nothing in return

Get over yourself dude lol. It ain't that deep.