Radahn actually losing to Malenia ?

[Uboa]

her army have surrounded red mane castle , destroy the land around it , residents and animals either killed or turned into monsters . she and her army are in offense while Radahn is just trying to fend off her
Its not wise to face to face with him, get fatally wounded and get your army shattered and have to retreat .

[GoreTiger]

Radahn had Malenia on the ropes, Radahn is just an honorable man and gave her the option to surrender or keep fighting, which we see in the trailer.

Malenia basically takes the suicide option. If that had been her REAL arm, Radahn would of knocked her out with that hit. But since it wasn't, Malenia decided to sacrifice her fake arm to get close to radahn.

If not for the scarlet flower, Malenia would of lost that fight. When you think about it, She still did.
Radahn may have lost his mind and Caelid may have been nuked, But radahn's army is still there fighting in his name, He's still revered as a great general and respected, and his soldiers are still fighting to keep the rot from spreading across the lands.

While Malenia had to be dragged back to Her tree fort, where her brother (who was the whole reason she attacked radahn for) was taken while she was gone, Her army was scattered or ruined, her paradise tree was rotting, And she had become the pawn of an outer god and no longer controlled her own fate.

Radahn went out like a warrior, Malenia went out as a broken husk.

[FIRE]

Originally posted by drakeef:

Originally posted by rkmugen:

What if Radahn had Torrent as his ride, instead of Leonard?

You mean the hose that can not survive a 10ft drop compared to the one that shakes off a fall from orbit like its nothing? Pretty sure sure Torrent is downgrade.

at least he could double jump during the fight tho

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by John Titor:

Originally posted by vamirez:

During Miyazaki's pen and paper round, the DM, who controlled Radahn, rolled several nat 20s against the player running Malenia. And the player rolled a 1. It happens ;)

I cast Magic Missile. I... I'm attacking the darkness!

I have a +8 dagger of ogre slaying!

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Mr Compassionate:

Radahn was easily winning but Melenia pressed the "F it I win" button. She only won because she's a walking nuke.

So when she brags about never having been defeated in battle it has little to do with her skill and more to do with what she is.

You're overselling it a bit. Said "nuke" button knocked her ass unconscious. She had to be carried back to the haligtree by Finlay (who lost her life in the process).

And yes, her whole "I've never known defeat" only applies to personal duels. When you actually analyze her life and the wars she's wages, she always ends up losing when it matters most. Sshe lost her army in Caelid, lost the land she was supposed to take, lost the opportunity to become elden lord herself, lost her arm at some point, then her sight, now her entire body, and finally she lost the one thing she was fighting for, her brother. Pretty sure she was written that way on purpose.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Mr Compassionate:

Watch this carefully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_03kFqWfqs
Radahn was easily winning but Melenia pressed the "F it I win" button. She only won because she's a walking nuke.

So when she brags about never having been defeated in battle it has little to do with her skill and more to do with what she is.

She is a walking nuke and he is a walking bullet sponge that can throw a f-all to all sort and amount of attacks.
What happen when the invincible shield faces the invincible spear?
Both get f-ed.

[Uboa]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Radahn had Malenia on the ropes, Radahn is just an honorable man and gave her the option to surrender or keep fighting, which we see in the trailer.

Malenia basically takes the suicide option. If that had been her REAL arm, Radahn would of knocked her out with that hit. But since it wasn't, Malenia decided to sacrifice her fake arm to get close to radahn.

If not for the scarlet flower, Malenia would of lost that fight. When you think about it, She still did.
Radahn may have lost his mind and Caelid may have been nuked, But radahn's army is still there fighting in his name, He's still revered as a great general and respected, and his soldiers are still fighting to keep the rot from spreading across the lands.

While Malenia had to be dragged back to Her tree fort, where her brother (who was the whole reason she attacked radahn for) was taken while she was gone, Her army was scattered or ruined, her paradise tree was rotting, And she had become the pawn of an outer god and no longer controlled her own fate.

Radahn went out like a warrior, Malenia went out as a broken husk.

I don't mean who is more powerful , I mean if the fight take place in Radahn's castle , then its must be Melania who have the upper hand in the war strategy aspect , she and her army are in offense while Radahn is just trying to fend off her .

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Uboa:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Radahn had Malenia on the ropes, Radahn is just an honorable man and gave her the option to surrender or keep fighting, which we see in the trailer.

Malenia basically takes the suicide option. If that had been her REAL arm, Radahn would of knocked her out with that hit. But since it wasn't, Malenia decided to sacrifice her fake arm to get close to radahn.

If not for the scarlet flower, Malenia would of lost that fight. When you think about it, She still did.
Radahn may have lost his mind and Caelid may have been nuked, But radahn's army is still there fighting in his name, He's still revered as a great general and respected, and his soldiers are still fighting to keep the rot from spreading across the lands.

While Malenia had to be dragged back to Her tree fort, where her brother (who was the whole reason she attacked radahn for) was taken while she was gone, Her army was scattered or ruined, her paradise tree was rotting, And she had become the pawn of an outer god and no longer controlled her own fate.

Radahn went out like a warrior, Malenia went out as a broken husk.

I don't mean who is more powerful , I mean if the fight take place in Radahn's castle , then its must be Melania who have the upper hand in the war strategy aspect , she and her army are in offense while Radahn is just trying to fend off her .

Radahn would of had the upper hand considering it's his home turf. His castle is perched on a cliff with a bridge scaling across it that's covered by 3 major catapults.

Not to mention radahn himself would absolutely wreck her army. Not just physical, but the guy could call down asteroid strikes on them if he really wanted to.

You know the messed up thing is that: Radahn prob would of left miquella and melania alone if he became elden lord. He wouldn't of cared about the haligtree as long as they recognize themselves as part of his kingdom. Miquella could of gave radahn his rune and radahn prob would of made Malania a high ranking person in his kingdom. Miquella would of been safe.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by drakeef:

The scary thing is, of all the demi gods, the closest to full power is Malenia when we go hunting for the Great Runes. If this is the kind of power needed to forced a draw by her throwing away her pride and giving into the scarlet rot, what the hell was Rahdan like at his peak? It took our tarnish and a small arms of skilled fighter (lore wise, not the players who make OP build I mean) to bring him down while crippled/super handy capped and pretty much on his last legs.

To be fair, when we fight Malenia (in her second phase), she's much more powerful than when Radhan fought her.
She was supposed to become "a goddess" on her third aeonia bloom, which she did, she even regrew her limbs and grew wings.

Really curious if goddess Malenia > prime Radhan.

Also wasn't Godfrey supposed to be overall the strongest demigod?

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by drakeef:

The scary thing is, of all the demi gods, the closest to full power is Malenia when we go hunting for the Great Runes. If this is the kind of power needed to forced a draw by her throwing away her pride and giving into the scarlet rot, what the hell was Rahdan like at his peak? It took our tarnish and a small arms of skilled fighter (lore wise, not the players who make OP build I mean) to bring him down while crippled/super handy capped and pretty much on his last legs.

To be fair, when we fight Malenia (in her second phase), she's much more powerful than when Radhan fought her.
She was supposed to become "a goddess" on her third aeonia bloom, which she did, she even regrew her limbs and grew wings.

Really curious if goddess Malenia > prime Radhan.

Also wasn't Godfrey supposed to be overall the strongest demigod?

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

People have actually done ER boss battles. Malenia versus Radahn has happened plenty of times. Radahn always wins phase 1, Malenia always wins phase 2. So yeah, pretty much.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

To be fair, when we fight Malenia (in her second phase), she's much more powerful than when Radhan fought her.
She was supposed to become "a goddess" on her third aeonia bloom, which she did, she even regrew her limbs and grew wings.

Really curious if goddess Malenia > prime Radhan.

Also wasn't Godfrey supposed to be overall the strongest demigod?

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

Thinking about it, and about how you can cheese Radahn to instakill it by making Radahn fall off the terrain, it may mean Radahn only survive himself being threw like a meteor because of the power he cast, not because he himself would survive the impact of a meteor or the impact of his body against the floor (more like what would hit the floor is the power, like a shield, and not Radahn himself).

By how meticulous From can be, they could very well make Radahn immune to fall damage but they did not.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

To be fair, when we fight Malenia (in her second phase), she's much more powerful than when Radhan fought her.
She was supposed to become "a goddess" on her third aeonia bloom, which she did, she even regrew her limbs and grew wings.

Really curious if goddess Malenia > prime Radhan.

Also wasn't Godfrey supposed to be overall the strongest demigod?

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

Was it her choice though?
I thought that her and Miquela were just born cursed by outer gods.

[Forest]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

People have actually done ER boss battles. Malenia versus Radahn has happened plenty of times. Radahn always wins phase 1, Malenia always wins phase 2. So yeah, pretty much.

Those really aren’t accurate cause those AI battles take the bosses as they are and pits them against each other and well Radahn is scaled for technically early game while Melina is the end game “secret” boss like Nameless King.

So yea early game boss VS end game boss and the early game boss can still win a few matches. Seen a few AI matches that scales them to similar levels and Radahn easily won even against Melina’s second phase rot be damned.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Malenia loses respect in that matchup for the simple fact that she had to bow to an outer god for the power she possess.
Radahn's strength is all his own. He studied and learned how to use the power he has, While malenia is boosted by a god.

If malenia had been in her goddess form when she fought radahn, Radahn likely would of brought the stars down upon her in his defense.
I don't think malenia could survive a meteor hitting her like it did in the middle of the map.

Was it her choice though?
I thought that her and Miquela were just born cursed by outer gods.

The lore is sketchy, Millicent makes it sound like malenia threw away her dignity to the god of rot in order to fight radahn, while also apparently miquella left the golden order because they couldn't cure malenia.

I think Malenia removed miquella's needle, letting the rot spread and the god's control over her become more prominent.

[MundM]

Who but she would had even stood a chance against him? You've seen the battle ground, he would have slaughtered her army all by himself. Also, neither of them lost, it was a draw. Both basically were left to slowly decay.
I'm not sure about the whole flower situation, but I don't think the blooming is their death, more like a phoenix thing?