Concealing Veil tests

[Ashley]

I wanted to see if the concealing veil talisman worked in pve, tl;dr is yes, but only worth it against snipers.


I tested it on the crow in front of caelid catacombs. I've use assassin's gambit to sneak past the crow so I know it's not scripted to come down. My test involve sneaking up to the crow with and without the talisman. On the run with the talisman, when it saw me, I moved about 2 fast rolls back and then quit the game. The result was I could get a little closer with the talisman then I could without, but not by much.

The fextralife wiki said the range is about 5 medium rolls, this is accurate if you don't take into account height, the crow saw me about 5-6 medium rolls if it was standing on the ground. I also tested this with the crepus' vial to mimic the full effect of assassin's gambit, no change.

My guess on how this works(and why it often sucks) is the distance of invisibility is close the the average sneaking distance, just a bit shorter, and thus it will only have an appreciable effect against enemies that can snipe you from a mile away.

[Sabaithal]

That talisman is unreliable as hell. I did my testing in the spawns in the catacombs past the Radahn area (forgot the name, war-something).

There is the long hallway past the bonfire leading to where all the mobs are fighting. Its REALLY long, well outside of most mobs aggro range. I put the talisman on before entering the line of vision anyway, crouching the entire time, the mobs still saw me and aggro'd on me despite the massive distance.

[DaShark]

I tested this myself as well. It's supposed to apply a concealment buff, the same one that unseen form and assassins gambit use, on crouch. If the buff truly did apply, it would stack with crouch. You can see this in action by running the sorcery or ash of war previously mentioned and you'll notice vastly improved results.
Conclusion: It doesn't work in PvE at all likely because its bugged.