Fights Rune Bear...

[mpcgannon]

Kills Rune Bear...
Literally gets sh!t

[Velesianus]

The only reason to go out of your way to farm rune bears for drops is if you're a doing a gunner build ⁽ᵇᵉᶜᵃᵘˢᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ʰᵃᵗᵉ ʸᵒᵘʳˢᵉˡᶠ⁾ and need ballista bolts to get the bone peddlers bearing.

Even then it's better to just try and cheese him as he's one of the easier Hunters.

[Aldain]

Rune Bears are the worst designed non-boss enemy in the game and epitomize everything wrong with Elden Ring's design choices.

[mpcgannon]

|x|SiriuS|x| a écrit :

...
If life gives you bear ♥♥♥♥, make... I don't know. Mosquito salve. Or something.

Bahaha!

[JustDodgeTheLag 4Head]

Aldain a écrit :

Rune Bears are the worst designed non-boss enemy in the game and epitomize everything wrong with Elden Ring's design choices.

This.

And most of them are put in area that is so tiny (or full of obstacles) that it make the fight totally ridiculous.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Aldain a écrit :

Rune Bears are the worst designed non-boss enemy in the game and epitomize everything wrong with Elden Ring's design choices.

Why do you think they are badly designed? I´m just curious because I really like them I just wish they´d give them a proper amount of runes. Right now there is no point in fighting them because it´s a waste of time.

In my opinion they are great. They are a bit scary, have excellent sounddesign and are hard hitting with fast leaping attack patterns like everything I imagine from a bear on steroids :D

[JustDodgeTheLag 4Head]

Humpenstilzchen a écrit :

Aldain a écrit :

Rune Bears are the worst designed non-boss enemy in the game and epitomize everything wrong with Elden Ring's design choices.

Why do you think they are badly designed? I´m just curious because I really like them I just wish they´d give them a proper amount of runes. Right now there is no point in fighting them because it´s a waste of time.

In my opinion they are great. They are a bit scary, have excellent sounddesign and are hard hitting with fast leaping attack patterns like everything I imagine from a bear on steroids :D

Because at no point, fighting them is fun.

It doesn't matter if it's easy or difficult, if the fight end up being a chore more than anything.

Most of the solution needed to fight them correctly without requiring being overleveled and tanking like a brain dead NPC are either annoying or require to play / have a dedicated build specific for them.

They exist only to scale against people that use OP build/weapons, and thus, anyone that doesn't use those are forced to fight them like they are fighting the strongest boss of the game (cf, there is video of a rune bear against radagon, and guess what, the bear is as strong if not stronger in some situation).

In top of that, they are most of the times put in area that make them even more broken/cancerous to fight, aka, they can sometimes travel through wall/rocks and avoid collision detection, they can, if you succeed to tank with a shield, spam the same dash move set over and over again (more than 4 time back to back), and because most of the time they are in a close/tiny area, you have basically no time to "roll" or breath because of the Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash again and again.

Add into that the fact that their body is so large that you can still be dragged/hit even after successfully dodging them, and don't think that the tactic of sitting right in their crotch being good, since in a lot of time, they will be so close to a wall (again, thanks the dash spam to wall) that you won't even have the space to sit there.

Then, you add the high HP, the high damage, the 1 hit stagger (that can even 1 hit stagger Radagon) and you get a recipe for a disastrous mob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1q9b8u8mVY

[Humpenstilzchen]

KEK a écrit :

Humpenstilzchen a écrit :

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Because at no point, fighting them is fun.

It doesn't matter if it's easy or difficult, if the fight end up being a chore more than anything.

Most of the solution needed to fight them correctly without requiring being overleveled and tanking like a brain dead NPC are either annoying or require to play / have a dedicated build specific for them.

They exist only to scale against people that use OP build/weapons, and thus, anyone that doesn't use those are forced to fight them like they are fighting the strongest boss of the game (cf, there is video of a rune bear against radagon, and guess what, the bear is as strong if not stronger in some situation).

In top of that, they are most of the times put in area that make them even more broken/cancerous to fight, aka, they can sometimes travel through wall/rocks and avoid collision detection, they can, if you succeed to tank with a shield, spam the same dash move set over and over again (more than 4 time back to back), and because most of the time they are in a close/tiny area, you have basically no time to "roll" or breath because of the Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash again and again.

Add into that the fact that their body is so large that you can still be dragged/hit even after successfully dodging them, and don't think that the tactic of sitting right in their crotch being good, since in a lot of time, they will be so close to a wall (again, thanks the dash spam to wall) that you won't even have the space to sit there.

Then, you add the high HP, the high damage, the 1 hit stagger (that can even 1 hit stagger Radagon) and you get a recipe for a disastrous mob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1q9b8u8mVY

Maybe you should try different tactics. Blocking bears is not a good idea, rather roll into and around them when they attack.

Here is something inspirational (I know this guy is not normal haha), but still it shows impressively how you can move around the bear and fight him in a way that makes him pretty much helpless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kDzSdaTVQ8

[Sabaithal]

I hated runebears at first too, but they can be read if you approach it properly. I learned how to read and evade all their attacks when testing spirit ashes against them.

Basically trying to see how SA would fare solo against them, but the thing sometimes aggros to me. I refuse to damage it because that would mess with the test, so I only defend and evade. Do that for practice.

[JustDodgeTheLag 4Head]

Humpenstilzchen a écrit :

Maybe you should try different tactics. Blocking bears is not a good idea, rather roll into and around them when they attack.

Here is something inspirational (I know this guy is not normal haha), but still it shows impressively how you can move around the bear and fight him in a way that makes him pretty much helpless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kDzSdaTVQ8

As I said, it's not about the difficulty, I know how to beat them (and no, I don't use a shield, I explained that different solution does not make the fight better, even "if" you were using a shield).

As for this video, first, it should be precised that this runbear version is quite easy, secondly, it's quite RNG based, in his fight, not a single time the bear decided to mass spam his dash move, when it does, it's annoying, since you are forced to wait.

Finally, like I said, the terrain is quite annoying, as seen in that video, where a lot of time, you can't even get on his side/back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTo38jkdxKE

All in all, it's a mob that require you to fight him like a boss, while most big mobs (like troll etc...) doesn't force you to wait and circle around that much.

In the end, it's not interesting to fight them, in fact, I would largely prefer to replace all those bear by a tree sentinel lol, it would at least, provide a better fight.

[Witcher]

KEK a écrit :

Humpenstilzchen a écrit :

Why do you think they are badly designed? I´m just curious because I really like them I just wish they´d give them a proper amount of runes. Right now there is no point in fighting them because it´s a waste of time.

In my opinion they are great. They are a bit scary, have excellent sounddesign and are hard hitting with fast leaping attack patterns like everything I imagine from a bear on steroids :D

Because at no point, fighting them is fun.

It doesn't matter if it's easy or difficult, if the fight end up being a chore more than anything.

Most of the solution needed to fight them correctly without requiring being overleveled and tanking like a brain dead NPC are either annoying or require to play / have a dedicated build specific for them.

They exist only to scale against people that use OP build/weapons, and thus, anyone that doesn't use those are forced to fight them like they are fighting the strongest boss of the game (cf, there is video of a rune bear against radagon, and guess what, the bear is as strong if not stronger in some situation).

In top of that, they are most of the times put in area that make them even more broken/cancerous to fight, aka, they can sometimes travel through wall/rocks and avoid collision detection, they can, if you succeed to tank with a shield, spam the same dash move set over and over again (more than 4 time back to back), and because most of the time they are in a close/tiny area, you have basically no time to "roll" or breath because of the Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash > 180° > Dash again and again.

Add into that the fact that their body is so large that you can still be dragged/hit even after successfully dodging them, and don't think that the tactic of sitting right in their crotch being good, since in a lot of time, they will be so close to a wall (again, thanks the dash spam to wall) that you won't even have the space to sit there.

Then, you add the high HP, the high damage, the 1 hit stagger (that can even 1 hit stagger Radagon) and you get a recipe for a disastrous mob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1q9b8u8mVY

I want Rune bear as a pet too. Shame on you for not helping your pet and letting it get killed lol.

[Chwiztid]

I like blood venom fangs with all the bleed gear. It's very satisfying to use on the bears.

[Xengre]

Arlen639 a écrit :

Walrus-Sama a écrit :

Rune Bears are an Environmental Hazard.

Runebears are easy. no more difficult then any other trash mob.

er tbf they often have higher stats than bosses around the points in the game you encounter them. Sure, their attack patterns aren't so bad but their health and dmg output are bloated and often make bosses look rather scrawny. There is at least one runebear in the game I'm confident will destroy most/all bosses in the game if put up vs them in the root area. They also have some odd tracking so you have to learn how to handle this.

OP, I do agree its rather obnoxious to encounter some of the game's more powerful trash mobs like Rune Bears, Revenants, etc. and get virtually no reward for them. It often comes off feeling really oddly placed.

Edit: oh someone beat me to it and posted a video of runebear wrecking ragadon lol

[JustDodgeTheLag 4Head]

Witcher a écrit :

I want Rune bear as a pet too. Shame on you for not helping your pet and letting it get killed lol.

lol, the perfect pokemon.

[Fineous🔥]

I admit i spent like 20 mins watching the blood stains of Dragonbarrow cave (the one with a rune bear as bouncer).

Laughed like a maniac.....people pretending to be solid Snake getting mauled, half naked guys flying about like a plastic bag....explosion of dopamine.

[GANDEL MAN]

Fineous a écrit :

I admit i spent like 20 mins watching the blood stains of Dragonbarrow cave (the one with a rune bear as bouncer).

Laughed like a maniac.....people pretending to be solid Snake getting mauled, half naked guys flying about like a plastic bag....explosion of dopamine.

lol