Lore-wise, who is the most evil character ?

[Timo.g]

Personally, I hesitate between Rykard and Mohg

[Hammer_Squirrel]

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

Messaggio originale di Sabaithal:

Ok so its safe to say Miquella's blood wasn't what killed the Haligtree.

I'm thinkin it could have been. Since both him and Malenia are essentially products of incest and were "born into rot," I'd imagine that Miquella's blood ain't all that great either (but not as bad as his sister's)

I don’t think so - the tree is clearly pretty hearty and there’s Oracle Envoys all over it. From the spirit ashes:

Spirits of a monstrous band of musicians who employ sacred arts. It is said that when Oracle Envoys appear, playing their pipes, they do so to herald the arrival of a new god, or age.

So the transformation was most likely going to happen until Mogh stole Miquella, and it didn’t transform because it was no longer being watered by Empyrean blood.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di MateAndMead:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

And yet here you are writing an entire paragraph about it? Take it easy, Mr. Sensitive XD

Im not sure how I'm being sensitive, I'm just politely asking you to not create any conflict.

Oh I know. It's just strange that you brought it up again almost immediately after my last post, and after a good deal of time had passed since your guys' "argument" ended. That's all I'm sayin'.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di Hammer_Squirrel:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

I'm thinkin it could have been. Since both him and Malenia are essentially products of incest and were "born into rot," I'd imagine that Miquella's blood ain't all that great either (but not as bad as his sister's)

I don’t think so - the tree is clearly pretty hearty and there’s Oracle Envoys all over it. From the spirit ashes:

Spirits of a monstrous band of musicians who employ sacred arts. It is said that when Oracle Envoys appear, playing their pipes, they do so to herald the arrival of a new god, or age.

So the transformation was most likely going to happen until Mogh stole Miquella, and it didn’t transform because it was no longer being watered by Empyrean blood.

But the envoys only appear to herald a new age or god. It seems like the enoys are there not to herald the Haligtree, but to welcome Malenia's transformation into the Goddess of Rot. They predicted it.

[Tacticowl]

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

Messaggio originale di MateAndMead:

Im not sure how I'm being sensitive, I'm just politely asking you to not create any conflict.

Oh I know. It's just strange that you brought it up again almost immediately after my last post, and after a good deal of time had passed since your guys' "argument" ended. That's all I'm sayin'.

It wasn't just adressed to you, its adressed to everyone here. My point was "Malenia bad" and I don't rly want that to derail into conflict here and my points to be taken out of context.

My point being: I think Malenia is the most evil because she risked the entire world getting infected with Scarlet Rot just to win against Radahn

The entire discussion we had afterwards was... moot. And I don't wish people to keep talking about this for the next 8 pages. I wish that both him and me are treated with respect. I see too often these discussions derailing into hostility and insults, which is why I wanted to drop the topic as soon as he started showing signs of irrational anger. And I simply ask you to not feed that anger, as your reply seemed rather... troll-esque.

I know asking for people to be nice to eachother on the internet is a waste of time, but I might at least try. I don't agree with his behavior but that doesn't mean I wish him to be ridiculed.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di MateAndMead:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

Oh I know. It's just strange that you brought it up again almost immediately after my last post, and after a good deal of time had passed since your guys' "argument" ended. That's all I'm sayin'.

It wasn't just adressed to you, its adressed to everyone here. My point was "Malenia bad" and I don't rly want that to derail into conflict here and my points to be taken out of context.

My point being: I think Malenia is the most evil because she risked the entire world getting infected with Scarlet Rot just to win against Radahn

The entire discussion we had afterwards was... moot. And I don't wish people to keep talking about this for the next 8 pages. I wish that both him and me are treated with respect. I see too often these discussions derailing into hostility and insults, which is why I wanted to drop the topic as soon as he started showing signs of irrational anger. And I simply ask you to not feed that anger, as your reply seemed rather... troll-esque.

I know asking for people to be nice to eachother on the internet is a waste of time, but I might at least try. I don't agree with his behavior but that doesn't mean I wish him to be ridiculed.

Respectfully, nobody cares.

[Tacticowl]

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

Messaggio originale di MateAndMead:

It wasn't just adressed to you, its adressed to everyone here. My point was "Malenia bad" and I don't rly want that to derail into conflict here and my points to be taken out of context.

My point being: I think Malenia is the most evil because she risked the entire world getting infected with Scarlet Rot just to win against Radahn

The entire discussion we had afterwards was... moot. And I don't wish people to keep talking about this for the next 8 pages. I wish that both him and me are treated with respect. I see too often these discussions derailing into hostility and insults, which is why I wanted to drop the topic as soon as he started showing signs of irrational anger. And I simply ask you to not feed that anger, as your reply seemed rather... troll-esque.

I know asking for people to be nice to eachother on the internet is a waste of time, but I might at least try. I don't agree with his behavior but that doesn't mean I wish him to be ridiculed.

Respectfully, nobody cares.

What a pleasant person you are.

[Hammer_Squirrel]

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

But the envoys only appear to herald a new age or god. It seems like the enoys are there not to herald the Haligtree, but to welcome Malenia's transformation into the Goddess of Rot. They predicted it.

I interpret it as the age of the Haligtree. If they predicted Malenia transforming into the Goddess of Rot without some sense of it being caused by the clash with the Tarnished and ultimately losing it just seems a little on-the-nose to me. Being imperfect oracles is something I can understand but the GoR theory just seems too convoluted to me.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

My mom... sorry just had a fight with her. She was playing Elden Ring.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di Hammer_Squirrel:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush90:

But the envoys only appear to herald a new age or god. It seems like the enoys are there not to herald the Haligtree, but to welcome Malenia's transformation into the Goddess of Rot. They predicted it.

I interpret it as the age of the Haligtree. If they predicted Malenia transforming into the Goddess of Rot without some sense of it being caused by the clash with the Tarnished and ultimately losing it just seems a little on-the-nose to me. Being imperfect oracles is something I can understand but the GoR theory just seems too convoluted to me.

I think the Haligtree is pretty much dead, kind of a like a failed experiment.

What makes more sense about the oracle envoys is that they're also in Leydell - and that's where you get to choose your ending and start a new age. The envoys predicted that one, too - so they're pretty much 2 for 2.

[Johnson]

Messaggio originale di Kyutaru:

You are. You murdered over 100 bosses, including god herself, just to be king.

yeah i agree with this one

[Sabaithal]

Messaggio originale di JohnsonYT/GD:

Messaggio originale di Kyutaru:

You are. You murdered over 100 bosses, including god herself, just to be king.

yeah i agree with this one

*In character voice* Bah, obsolete remnants of a bygone age that have long ceased to serve their purpose. With the blackflame I will burn their influence away, and bring about an age devoid of the gods. An age of man.

[MundM]

Messaggio originale di Orion Invictus:

Messaggio originale di MundM:

Nah, it's ending their suffering.

Forced euthanasia is evil.

Buzz words are evil.
It's for the greater picture. It's indiscriminately.