Godslayer Incantations need some love

[Dollmaker]

After using them for quite a while now, i noticed a couple of issues these incantations have.

1.- Black Flame Blade: The duration is way too short, 6 Secs just aint really worth it, if it was around 10 or 15, the spell would be decent.

2.- Scouring Black Flame: That. Damn. ARC, the arc of this thing makes it stupidly hard and inconsistent to use for targets that are further away or on ramps, downright impossible on the latter, the arc really hurts this spells above anything else, the arc needs to be toned down if not downright removed to work like Flame of the Redmanes.

3.- Noble Presence: Takes too long to charge and has no hyper armor at all, those are the main problems with this one, could also point out how its uncharged version is just pathetic, not even pushing enemies like Rejection or Wrath of Gold, or the dmg not being very good, i know the gimmick with the Noble Chest Piece but only a maniac or cosplayer would use THAT.

4.- No Catch Flame/O Flame! Variants: Why? just WHY?!, the Black Flame Monks use them, so they do exist, we need those :(

[Dollmaker]

ressenmacher eredeti hozzászólása:

Dollmaker eredeti hozzászólása:

I think it would be better if it just lasted longer, which would make the 15 FP worth it.

6 secs is too short in general, even if the cost was lower, it would still be kinda annoying having to constantly apply this.

I mean, that's kinda the point; that you constantly apply it. It's like a bundle/rope grease; you snap it on while sprinting in or during small windows where you can't attack and use it to boost damage in that way.

Could be longer tho. Bundles were 10-15 seconds, and that felt better to me.

Yeah thats exactly why, Bundles last longer, which makes the applying part better.

But 6 secs just makes it obnoxious to use.

[Dollmaker]

Heimdall313 eredeti hozzászólása:

Blade is dumb, yes.
Blackflame fireball thing is absolutely amazing, it shreds bosses with % damage, hard targets like Crystallians, greatshield soldiers. If its in range, I'm probably tossing it. Its even great on horseback as it doesn't slow you down at all. The only downside is actually having to invest in higher than 12 faith. If you're running the Godslayer seal, its just so spammable.
Scouring: I suck at this game, have not even unlocked it yet.

Scouring is basically a cone attack, but it has an upward arc which makes it impossible to use on Ramps and overall inconsistent if the enemies is somewhat far, unless they are big enemies.

[Sabaithal]

Xengre eredeti hozzászólása:

I've not tested so I'll take your word for it but for clarification is this on a per FP efficiency basis I assume? I'd think spells like Shard Spiral, Stars of Ruin, etc. (if by tier-1 you mean 1 slot, if you mean something else idk) for sheer raw dmg or DPS at the expense of throwing FP efficiency out the window when viable? I assume that is also in perspective of a less mage oriented character ticked out with talisman/equipment to boost it and mainly from a magic-light perspective such as a mainly melee build or hybrid-light?

EDIT: In testing out of curiosity I only just learned that the blackflame fireball can be charged for more damage. Q_Q

Yes, its per FP efficiency. Other, much more expensive spells do more burst damage. A lot of them also take 3 hours to charge...

Dollmaker eredeti hozzászólása:

Does Scouring actually hit the same target multiple times? didnt knew that.

Wouldnt Ritual be better though? since most of the large bosses are slow and wont move away from it, taking all the dmg.

I THINK it does, but only on really big enemies. Its really difficult to test with scouring flame since its damage isn't as noticable on enemy health bars compared to a lot of other spells, but I use it as my main attack against elden beast, and that thing dies from it.

I'm not 100% certain though.

[Umbral Priestess]

Dollmaker eredeti hozzászólása:

Sabaithal eredeti hozzászólása:

I get the feeling FROM didn't just want a bunch of pallet-swapped magics with the different schools. They already kind of copy-paste quite a bit with this game.

We are talking about the same devs that copy pasted the living hell out of the Tree Avatars and Ulcerated Tree Spirits.

Well they had to draw the line somewhere, i wasn't looking forward to black flame versions of every fire spell.

[ɸ It That Dwells ɸ]

RIP Black Flame Serpent.

[Dollmaker]

ɸ Keeper M'thi'ria ɸ eredeti hozzászólása:

RIP Black Flame Serpent.

Oh yeah remember that, it was pretty cool.

[ressenmacher]

ɸ Keeper M'thi'ria ɸ eredeti hozzászólása:

RIP Black Flame Serpent.

Actually yeah, that would have been a great spell to keep. Kinda meh in PvE, but it was super interesting in PvP.